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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: reneemaxi on Monday 11 October 10 21:44 BST (UK)
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looking for information on Marion Grace Combe/Coombe she was born 5th Dec 1843 Newhaven she was my gggranny thanks
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
This is a submitted IGI entry but her middle name is not Grace
MARION NOBLE COMB Birth: 05 DEC 1843 Christening: 31 DEC 1843 Newhaven, North Leith, Midlothian
Father: JOHN COMB Mother: GRACE CHRISTIE
There is another submitted entry which has identical info but surname is spelt Coombe
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
Submitted entry
Grace Christie Birth: About 1812 Of, Newhaven, Midlothian
Father: John Christie
Marriages: Spouse: John Coombe Marriage: 06 DEC 1833
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1841 for North Leith - all b Midlothian - relationships were not shown in 1841 so Robert may either be a son whose age is wrongly recorded or he may be a relative
John Comb 32 merchant seaman
Grace 29
Robert 19
Elizabeth 6
John 5
James 2
North Leith ED 68 60 Page 6
1851 census for Main St Newhaven - all children are surname Combe and everybody was b North Leith
Grace Christie 39 Head - fishwoman
Elizabeth Combe 16
John 15
James 11
Grace 9
Marion 7
Thomas 5
Christopher Christie 3 (middle name as per IGI entry)
Ann 9 months
Leith North ED 66 Page 12 Line 1
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Hope this helps,
I have John Combe b1809 Newhaven (to John Combe and Janet Carnie) m Grace Christie
Children
Elizabeth c 3/10/1834
John c 31/12/1835
Janet Carnie b 5/12/1837.…c 24/12/1837
James b 30/1839
Grace b16/9/1841.….c 3/10/1841
Marion Noble b 5/12/1843.….c 31/12/1843 (Marion had a daughter Grace b 29/8/1865)
Thomas b 15/3/1846.…..c 23/4/1846
Christopher Christie b13/6/1848.…c 30/7/1848
Ann Kerr b25/6/1850.… c 14/7/1850
Robert b 29/5/1853.…c 22/6/1853
John Comb and Janet Carnie m 1803
Children
James b17/8/1804 c 21/8/1804
Janet c 22/1/1806
Christina c 18/9/1807
John 20/9/1809 (married Grace Christie)
Isabella c 20/10/1811
Janet c 15/8/1813
Jane Young b 8/4/1819
Robert b 7/12/1822
Terry
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Forgot to say Grace, Marions illigitimate daughter married Joseph McCluskey 15/11/1881 He was aged 25 and she was 18. She lived at 20 High Riggs Edinburgh and he lived at 10 Scotland Street. Her mother is given as Mary Comb fish dealer married after brides birth to William Fraser Steam Ship ? deceased
Marion and William Fraser had 3 children
Elizabeth Fraser b 14/6/1868 Leith
John Comb Frase 24/10/1869 Leith
Marion Fraser 15/8/1871
I am of course assuming we have the correct Marion (Noble) Combe.
Terry
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Great I have the right family. My grandmother was Grace (Comb)McCluskey born 17 Sept 1887 Edinburgh Illegiatmate daughter of Grace Comb. I know my grandmother 1st husband was a Charles Riley and had a child Grace unforunately her first husband die in Montreal not sure what of and dont have a marriage cert .....they may have married in Canada not even sure if she went to usa/canada on her own or with him. She later married my grand father Donald McKechnie in 1913? in Brooklyn NY. If anyone can fill in the gaps it was be much appreciated
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I don't know if you're interested in other Combes in Newhaven, but in 1885 James Fairbairn Combe, lighthouse keeper at Girdleness, Aberdeen, married Grace Anderson at St. Abbs Head, Coldingham, Berwickshire. Grace's father was keeper of the St. Abbs lighthouse.
James was the son of George Combe, fisherman, and his wife Helen Flucker, in Newhaven. I assume James had been called after the popular Newhaven minister, the Rev. James Fairbairn.
In 1889 James F. Combe and Grace Anderson had a baby girl called Elizabeth Hutchison Combe christened at Crail, Fife. James was then the keeper of the lighthouse on the Isle of May out in the Firth of Forth, but the baby was born at 22 Victoria Place, Newhaven.
Harry
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how interesting the flucker family seems to run through most families around Newhaven. My GGGGgrandfather John Coombe married Janet Cairnie on 18th November 1833 she was the daughter of John Cairney and Isobel Rannie . John Cairney was the son of John Cairney and Marion Flooker b circa 1756. Marion b 24 April 1709 North Leith was the daughter of Wulliam and Kathrine Flooker. I take it Flucker and Flooker are the same family
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how interesting the flucker family seems to run through most families around Newhaven. My GGGGgrandfather John Coombe married Janet Cairnie on 18th November 1833 she was the daughter of John Cairney and Isobel Rannie . John Cairney was the son of John Cairney and Marion Flooker b circa 1756. Marion b 24 April 1709 North Leith was the daughter of Wulliam and Kathrine Flooker. I take it Flucker and Flooker are the same family
Yes, and Flockhart is another variant.
I wonder if your Cairney is the name which is now usually spelt and pronounced Carnie. One branch of the Newhaven family used to have a fishmonger's shop in Newington, on the south side of Edinburgh, and I always bought my fish there. They had atmospheric old photos of Newhaven round the walls.
Harry
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I am also researching Comb from Newhaven and have obtained a copy of the O.P.R. marriages Leith North. It is for Robert Comb, Fisherman and Darney Main (daughter of William Main, Fisherman). Witness by Robert Young, John Flucker and David Auchenleck Elder on 6 Dec 1833.
The next entry below is for John Comb, Fisherman and Grace Christie (daughter of the late John Christie Sailmaker). Witness by Robt Young, Mathew Main and David Auckenleck Elder also 6 Dec 1833.
They were married the same day but not by the same ministers. Robert and Darney were married by Rev James Harper Min Leith and John and Grace by Rev Jas Grant Min of S.Leith.
David Auckenleck is at both weddings so wonder if these two couples were married in their own houses and the Elder went to both so although same day must have been at different hours.
Not sure if Robert and John were brothers as there is no mention of fathers name. Robert and Darney had a son also called Robert who was born in 1834 but by 1841 Darney had gone and Robert senior was married a second time.
Jean
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I would like to recommend a book for people with an interest in Newhaven.
"Newhaven-on Forth Port of Grace" Tom McGowran. John Donald Publishers Ltd., 138 St Stephen Street, Edinburgh
ISBN 0 85976 130 4
Kris
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I have been researching my grandmother Grace McCluskey daughter of Grace Comb and Joseph McCluskey. Grace married Donald McKechnie in Brooklyn NY around 1913 although I still cant find a wed cert. Grace was living with her sister Sarah in Brooklyn before she got married. There is some evidence that she was married to a Charles or Ralph Riley in Montreal who later died. She had a child called Grace I was led to believe this was a child from her first marriage but again I can not find a birth cert. Her child Grace does not appear on any documentation I have found from 1912-1915 in USA and Canada. There is family talk that the child Grace was sent back to Scotland but I cant find her. Grace and Donald stayed in USA and Canada until 1916 before returning to Edinburgh were my father Donald was born on the 24th July 1916. Grace is later found living with the family in Scotland and marriedDavid Timpany in 1941 she uses the name McKechnie as her surname but im not sure. If anyone can shine any light on this it was be much appreciated. thanks Irene
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Just to add a bit more information. about the family of John Combe and Grace Christie. Grace died on 17 June 1853, aged 43. the cause of death was given as Child Birth. The child was presumably Robert who was mentioned by terry hastie in his post on 10 October 2010. Robert died on 27 November 1853 and the cause of death was given as teething. Thomas Combe died 11 August 1852. aged 6 years, cause of death Disease in Heart. Ann Kerr Combe died 26 July 1851, aged 1year 1 month, cause of death Consumption. They are all buried in Rosebank Cemetery Edinburgh.
Jessie
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Gets confusing jumping about generations, but here goes!
Regarding Grace, daughter of Grace Comb and Joseph McCluskey, have you seen that there is a border crossing card for her entering the US and destined to her sister Sarah McClusky in Brooklyn? This is from November 1912 and she shows as already married to Donald McKechie. Entry transcribed as MCKECHIAN.
So, marriage date for her to Donald McKechnie before 1913.
There are also two slightly earlier border crossings for her, with father's details showing as contact back in Edinburgh, entering the US from Canada in November 1911 and January 1912 - not seeing much of a time window for a first marriage for her if by November 1912 she showed as married to Donald McKechnie...
Monica :)
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Hi Monica
Thanks for the info looks like someone has been telling fibs.....I have found birth of Margaret Irene McKechnie 25th July 1913 Port Credit (Ontario archives microfilm MS929 Ref 44915-13) daugher of Donald McKechnie, latter Grace McCluskey (widow) married 19 Oct 1912 Brooklyn NY.
Still no sign of a marriage cert or birth cert of their other daughter Marion Elizabeth
Cheers Irene
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Hi Reneemaxi,
I've got quite a bit of information on Grace, she was married to my Great Grandfather.
If you are still interested let me know.
Roger McCluskey.
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Hi Roger,
Welcome to Rootschat, hope you enjoy. We have a Personnel Message (PM) system to communicate without giving email addresses on an open forum. You have to have made 3 posts, replying to this will count as the second. Another post to Reneemaxi with another piece of info will be thiird and allow you to communicate direct to Reneemaxi.
Tom
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Cheers Tom.
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Grace's headstone at Echobank Cemetry in Edinburgh.
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Roger, Thanks for the information on Grace. I would be interested in anything you may have ..do you have any pictures. I have put together information on the family etc and am happy to share. Thanks again. Irene
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I've just become aware of this site and noticed the discussion about the Comb family from Newhaven, from which I am also a descendant. My Great Grandfather was the John Comb born 31 December 1835, father John Comb, mother Grace Christie. John came to Australia about 1853-4. I have been wondering where each of his siblings went to after his mother died. The census shows that Christopher stayed with his father and new mother, ultimately becoming a lighthouse keeper as well I understand. It seems that each of them must have maintained some contact, I believe John did have contact at least with Christopher, and I assume from the chat above that Grace must have maintained contact as well. Anyone followed any other detail on other descendants?
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I have a photo of my grandmother Grace McCluskey Mckechnie daughter of Grace Combe and Joseph McCluskey as well as a few other family members just wondering if any one recognises them from their family tree
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I can't help identify the others in the photo for you unfortunately, but I'm interested in trying to track the rest of the family of John Comb and Grace Christie. As a reminder, using some information from the above posts and some of my research: John Comb b 20Sep1809 Newhaven (to John Comb and Janet Carnie) m Grace Christie 6Dec1833, Children:
Elizabeth c 3/10/1834
John c 31/12/1835 migrated to Australia 1855, never went back to Newhaven, all descendants in Australia.
Janet Carnie b 5/12/1837.…c 24/12/1837
James b 30Nov1839
Grace b16/9/1841.….c 3/10/1841 to USA, Canada, back to Edinburgh
Marion Noble b 5/12/1843.….c 31/12/1843 (Marion had a daughter Grace b 29/8/1865)
Thomas b 15/3/1846.…..c 23/4/1846 died Rosebank Edinburgh 11Aug1852
Christopher Christie b13/6/1848.…c 30/7/1848 lighthouse keeper Newhaven
Ann Kerr b25/6/1850.… c 14/7/1850 died Rosebank Edinburgh 26Jul1851
Robert b 29/5/1853.…c 22/6/1853 died Rosebank Edinburgh 27Nov1853
Grace Christie died in childbirth with Robert 17Jun1853, John Comb then remarried Catherine Ferguson and they had two children:
Thomas 25Nov1854
Anna 18Mar1859
Christopher, Thomas and Anna were the only three left at home for the 1861 census, where were all of the others. I think John Comb (senior) died 18Jan1881 in the Edinburgh poorhouse.
Does anyone know where Elizabeth, Janet, James, Thomas, or Anna went, did they migrate or stay in Edinburgh? Appreciate any insights. Thanks. Gary