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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: haney on Monday 11 October 10 01:52 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone
I'd like to ask some kind soul to have a look for Elizabeth BOUGHTON born 1817 England arriving on the 17 of December in 1833 in NSW on board "the Layton" please. I'd like to see if her parents are mentioned! Would this be an exact copy of what is on the microfilm reels held at the various libraries?? It would save me a lot of time. Help much appreciated Kind regards Dianna
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Hi Dianna,
Elizabeth travelled as an unassisted immigrant. Unassisted Immigrant lists carry very little detail and parents etc are not listed. Some are only Surname, Initial and no age. This one does list Elizabeth as aged 16 of London which is very good for one of these lists. - There is no further information - it will not matter where you access the information I am afraid.
The only Elizabeth I have found quickly was born in 1813 so seems a little old.
I notice Bounty Immigrants list her as Eliza
There is an Eliza BOUGHTON born 18 Jan 1817 and baptised 27 Nov 1819 St Matthew Bethnal Green parents George William (a clerk in the India House) and Elizabeth - residence Road
Do you have her marriage or death in Australia to see if parents are listed?
Cheers Kris :)
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Hi Kris thanks so much for your reply, the thing is I don't have her death certificate in front of me it's being sent to me hopefully we have her parents as Elijah Boughton and Sarah. This Elizabeth Boughton seems to have been christened in 1824 (we're a bit confused at the moment) under Elizabeth Sarah Boughton but there is no mention of the middle name Sarah anywhere else. She married George Smith in Sutton Forest I think in 1837 so there wouldn't be much info on that certificate. Now I don't know if Elizabeth (or family) paid her way here, she was part of the female immigration scheme in the 1830's and 1840's. Adverts were put in the papers over in England were the girls were encouraged to emmigrate. She was employed by a Captain ? for about 4 pounds a year so I thought she would be a Bounty Immigrant.
The date you found fit's better for the Eliza BOUGHTON b 1817 so maybe the death certificate we have is incorrect, even though she did have a son named Elijah. This looks like another head scratcher to me kind regards Dianna
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This might be her. Elizabeth Smith, died 1867, Yass, father Elijah F, no name for mother 8602/1867
Elizabeth's name is Broughton on the marriage index.
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HI wivenhoe yes that looks like her many thanks Dianna
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Hi Dianna :)
From a "List of Women [off the Layton] employed from the Lumber Yard" (1833):
Eliza BOUGHTON - employer Captain Collins - wages 4 pounds per year plus clothing.
Cheers
Prue
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Hi Prue thanks for that kind regards Dianna
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Diana & Kris,
on the Ozships Convictions Australian shipping
http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/
re - the Layton Aug 15 (London) to Dec 17 arrival at Sydney 1833, it lists Elizabeth Broughton as a passenger.
I have an earlier edition of these records and it shows Elizabeth Broughton, age 16, London. (hope this helps).
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The Syndey Monitor, 18 Dec 1833, page 2s.
FEMALE EMIGRANTS, BY THE LAYTON.
The Layton brings out 306 Girls and Women, varying in age
from twelve to forty. The great bulk of them are from twenty to thirty years of age. All
unmarried. There are a good many matronly looking females of genteel manners, who seem to
be capable of taking charge as Housekeepers, and to act in the capacity of Governesses.
They speak well of the Captain, but indifferently of the pro- visions. They are all much
distressed to hear of the conduct & fate, of former importations, and at present there is
much weeping on board. The find themselves dreadfully disappointed, as the have been
already told, that comfortable situations are scarce, and but very moderately paid. They
say, they are quite willing to go up the country, if they can get respectable places. They
have a good character on board, except a few; and appear to be equal in respectability
and morals, to those who arrived by the Palambam.
Fortunately, a great many have relatives
or friends in the colony, and a great many more have brought letters to respectable
people. The are from various parts of England, but are not farming women, probably,
chiefly from the seaport towns; but some come from the inland towns. We augur better of
this importation than any who have yet arrived; and we have little doubt, that ere a month
elapse, there will be no just cause for tears.
This Government is niggardly of the public money, in all cases of great utility. It is
liberal only in giving superfluous salaries and pensions. If it had any just notions of
policy, true economy, and a real regard for the morals and happiness of the Settlers, it
would not allow this valuable arrival to dawdle their their time away in Sydney, to be
tempted by our immoral vagabounds, both gentle and sim-ple, to concubinage and
prostitution, but would turn out of the Lumber Yard, at the end of a week, all those who
refused to go to those towns and districts in our interior, where our Commissariat is
established. They should be conveyed there, with orders to the Commissaries and
storekeepers, to furnish them all, indiscriminately, for one month with rations. This
would make honest women of the whole of them, and wives of three fourths of them, in less
than three months.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09zy/
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Aha - and thus the Lumber Yard question is answered ;) Thanks, LoganH!
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More about the Lumber Yard as a mustering point:
"Although the British government paid for the women to migrate, it made no provision for them to find suitable work or accomodation on their arrival in the colony. Unlike convict women, who were disembarked at 8 a.m., these free immigrants were disembarked in the middle of the day. In Sydney, the only area suitable as a reception site was the lumber yard where convicts worked. This yard was fenced, thus keeping the women in and the men out. Temporary accomodation there was primitive, with plain benches provided for sleeping. Governor Bourke was apparently unaware that as well as scullery maids and dairymaids there were women such as governesses who were not used to sleeping on hard beds. " http://home.vicnet.net.au/~pioneers/pppg5bq.htm
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Nice work Prue.
Elizabeth came to the Colony via the Female Emigrant Society.
Their advertisement.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09zz/
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Hi,
May I ask how you came to know Elizabeth Boughton (Broughton) came to be on the ship "Layton"?
Elizabeth is my 3xgt grandmother who married George Smith, a convict, in Sutton Forrest.
I have only just started researching this branch of the family, and George is my first convict that I have found. I
Elizabeth is listed Elizabeth Sarah Broughton on one of her daughter's marriage certificate (my 2x gt grandmother) and my gt grandfather carries Boughton as his middle name.
I know that she came free, and was 21 when she married George, although her maiden name is listed as Broughton in the parish register.
Any insight into how you came to find her on any shipping list would be appreciated, as I have not found a document that states when she arrived in Australia.
Thanks.
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Hi buttercup
Are you descended from Charles Broughton SMITH?? I have done a lot of research on the family back to Tasmanian convicts Mary Britcliffe and James Greer.
I am unable to find DNA matches to any of the "SMITHS" however I still try and help the "actual" descendants where I can.
I think I have some notes also on Elizabeth's sister Sarah who was in Victoria?? Kind regards Dianna
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No, definitely not. There were no family in Tasmania. Elizabeth married George Smith and they had resided in the gunning Dalton Yass area for the rest of their lives. Their children married members of the Brown family who were prominent Wesleyan Methodists in the area, which is why. We know a fair bit about that side of the family and family movements. There is no family lore stating we had ancestors in Tasmania.
Jen