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Title: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: GKE on Sunday 10 October 10 22:33 BST (UK)
This picture was very dark unfortunately.
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 10 October 10 23:00 BST (UK)
The V shaped bodice was popular throughout the 1850's but her hairstyle suggests mid - late.

jim
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: PrueM on Sunday 10 October 10 23:50 BST (UK)
I wonder if the darker ones (you have another one or two) are on ruby or dark glass?  Probably no way of telling without pulling the image package apart which I wouldn't recommend because they are in such good condition.  But it could explain why some are so indistinct while most of the others are beautifully clear.
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: jim1 on Sunday 10 October 10 23:59 BST (UK)
Why ruby glass Prue?does it bring out the tinting better?

jim
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: PrueM on Monday 11 October 10 00:05 BST (UK)
I don't know why they used it, possibly it was thought that it served the purpose of being a dark backing as well as a support for the photo (i.e. they didn't then have to paint on a black backing or put in a black backing card/cloth).  In reality, because Ambrotypes are basically just very weak negatives, the darkness of the glass just makes them harder to see.  I'm sure there's some physics to explain why, but I ain't a physicist  ;D

I have seen a few of them, so they were not uncommon, but certainly not as common as the 'normal' glass ones.

Added:  an interesting (to me, anyway!) technical study here:  http://lisaduncanllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/duncan_technical_study_ambrotype1.pdf

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The making of ambrotypes upon a colored glass support started about 1854 in
England, and 1856 in America. In reviewing the American published Humphrey’s
Journal, H. Draper submitted the earliest entry describing the use of colored glass
for ambrotypes on October 1, 1856. The dark glass dually provided a support for
the image and a dark backing.
Anthony’s Invention and Improvement catalog from 1857 heralded the sale of
colored glass by stating, “the colored glass meets a want that has been long felt by
Ambrotypists. Made expressly for this purpose at the request of some of the most
eminent Ambrotypists.”
Today ambrotypes on a colored glass are referred to as Ruby ambrotypes or
ambrotypes on Bohemia glass. When viewing a ruby ambrotype in transmitted
light, the colored glass is evident. Most often the color of the glass was reddish to
purplish-black in color but there are known samples on green, amber or blue glass.
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: chinakay on Monday 11 October 10 05:24 BST (UK)
How very, very interesting, Prue!
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: GKE on Tuesday 12 October 10 17:24 BST (UK)
As the photo and case are in such good condition I agree that pulling it apart is not recommended. Thank you Prue for all the information, very interesting to read.
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: artistic on Sunday 24 October 10 12:04 BST (UK)
Hi, I couldn't help myself from attempting an improvement on the photo. Someone may want to retouch more and/or colourise it :)
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: IgorStrav on Sunday 24 October 10 17:24 BST (UK)
Gosh, well done Artistic, that's a great improvement.  Welcome to Rootschat!  ;D

These pictures from GKE are remarkable, aren't they.
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: GKE on Sunday 24 October 10 21:01 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for working on this photo Artistic! Great job.  Igor, I love your enthusiasm for these family photos!

Gail
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: saddles on Monday 25 October 10 01:18 BST (UK)
Hi Gail......Heres my effort,  like Artistic I could not help myself either.

Welcome aboard Artistic.

Carolyn  :)
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: GKE on Wednesday 27 October 10 01:17 BST (UK)
Once again thank you Carolyn. I really appreciate all the restoring you have done on my family photos!

Gail
Title: Re: Ambrotype Ayr8
Post by: saddles on Wednesday 27 October 10 04:00 BST (UK)
You are most welcome Gail I have enjoyed the challenge.

Carolyn  :)