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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: lorisg on Monday 15 November 04 11:56 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any information about Jame Gillespie, farmer, of Exorna, Coleraine. His wife was Mary Ann Hutchison. Their son, Joseph, my gt gr father, born about 1842 at Exorna, became a communicant member of the 1st Pres church at Dunboe, before he emigrated to Queensland, Australia. Their daughters were married there:- Martha Jane m Robert MURDOCK in 1856 and Sarah married James KENNEDY in 1865. May have been other children. Would love to make contact with any family members. Thanks for any help -- lorisg
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Hi Lorisg
Are you still looking for this family
I have Gillespie's who I have traced back to Dunboe
and would be interested to see if they are the same family as yours
Elaine
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IGI lists children of Martha Jane Gillespie and Robert MURDOCK:
1. Mary born 21 June 1864 Newtown Limavady dist.
2. Sarah born 1 Dec.1865 Newtown Limavady dist.
3. Elizabeth born 25 July 1867 Newtown Limavady dist.
4. Robert born 28 Oct.1868 Londonderry dist., Co. Londonderry
and children of Sarah Gillespie and James KENNEDY:
1. dau. born 29 Feb.1868 Co. Londonderry
2. Elizabeth born 10 Nov.1869 Articlave dist.
3. son born 29 Sept.1873 Articlave dist.
4. dau. born 18 Feb.1875 Articlave dist.
5. son born 29 May 1876 Articlave dist.
Might have more on Gillespies but getting ready to go out now. If either of you are interested I can have a look tomorrow or so.
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thanks aghadowey
I dont know a lot about my Gillespie's
Ruth Gillespie birth about 1796 married Solomon Given
about 1820 I have these two on 1841 census in Scotland
but have found what I think is the two families in the
1831 census for Dunboe
Names that seem to come down from the Gillespie side are
James Martha and Thomas
Elaine
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Coleraine Chronicle, 30 May 1863: At Exorna, parish of Dunboe, on the 28th inst., Mary Anne, wife of Mr. James Gillespie, aged 66 years.
Coleraine Chronicle, 9 Dec.1865: At Linen-hall Street, Newtownlimavady, on the 1st instant, the wife of Mr. Robert Murdoch, baker, of daughter.
Coleraine Chronicle, 3 Aug.1867: A Linenhall Street, Newtownlimavady, on the 25th ult., the wife of Mr. Robert Murdoch, of a daughter.
Coleraine Chronicle, 30 Nov.1867: On the 22nd inst., Elizabeth, infant daughter of Mr. Robert Murdoch, Linenhall Street, Newtownlimavady.
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Londonderry Sentinel, 21 Feb.1865: On the 14th February, at Linenhall Street, Newtownlimavady, Mary, infant daughter of Mr. Robert Murdock, aged 7 months.
Londonderry Sentinel, 27 Dec.1865: December 19, by the Rev. William Lyle, in the first Presbyterian Church, Dunboe, James, fifth son of Samuel Kennedy, Esq., Quilly, to Sarah, fifth daughter of James Gillespie, Esq., both of the Parish of Dunboe.
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Thanks aghadowey
I know one of distant relations has middle name Kennedy
and dad had an old workmate years ago who was a Kennedy
his parents used to say they were related but never said how
so I think you have given me something to search on
thanks
Elaine
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It was only when I found the marriage notice that I realised James Kennedy was from Quilly. Have a friend married to one of those Kennedys (at least I'm fairly certain it's his family) and will get in touch with her as I think she or someone else has researched the Kennedys.
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Thankyou
Elaine
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Hello aghadowey and Elaine
Lovely surprise to find your posts as I had given up checking this page. Yes I
certainly am still looking for this Gillespie family. Seems all notices from 'L'derry Sentinel' and 'Col Chronicle' are mine. I have marriage certificates for Gillespie=Murdoch and Kennedy if anyone interested. Would love to hear more. I live Sunshine Coast, Queensland, but now feel the world isn't so large after all. Thanks lorisg
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Hi Lorisg
I am looking for a Ruth Gillespie born about 1796
to James Gillespie and Mary ?
this info maybe wrong as it comes from another person
and I have been unable to find any references to them
Ruth married Solomon Given (Govan) in Ireland around 1821/22
their children were all born around the Dunboe and Coleraine area ,
on the 1831 census for Dunboe there is a Gillespie family and a Given family
but still unable to connect them
Elaine
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Coleraine Chronicle, 30 May 1863: At Exorna, parish of Dunboe, on the 28th inst., Mary Anne, wife of Mr. James Gillespie, aged 66 years.
Just realised I'd already posted this.
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Yes thank you aghadowey, I didn't have that record before, so I was delighted to see your previous post. Do you have access to someone's index to those newspapers? Regards Loris
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Elaine, sorry my Irish records don't go back beyond the 1832 Census of landowners, when there were two James Gillespies of Dunboe, one of Exorna and the other of Blakes, but several from other parishes. Not much to go on is there? Regards Loris
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HI Lorisg
I think mine maybe the one's from Blakes
this is the only place I have seen the Gillespie and the Given name together
thank you for trying
good luck
Elaine
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Have Coleraine Chronicle index 1844-1869 (births, marriages, deaths) and Londonderry Sentinel 1829-1869 (also bmd).
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Elaine, I have been sent a copy of some Baptisms from 1st Dunboe church, Can't find any of mine, but there is a bapt of Betty Ann on 13 Sept 1807, dau of Solomon GIVEN of Blakes. and a William, bapt 0 Aug 1905, son of Thomas GIVIN of Blakes. Do you have these records? Can anyone find baptisms for the children of James Gillespie of Exorna, between c 1820 and 1843? I'd be so grateful for any suggestions. lorisg
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WOW!!!
Thank you Lorisg
that must be the father of Solomon born about 1796
that is the sort of info I have been looking for and couldn't find
now that you have found them I maybe able to find
Solomon and Ruth
:) :) :) :)
Elaine
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Hi Lorisg
could you tell me what details are on the bapt cert for Betty Ann
and William please as
I am still unable to find anything at all on any of the Gillespie family
or the Given family in Ireland
very frustrating ???
Elaine
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It is most likely that all that is in the baptismal register is the date of baptism, name of child, name of father and residence (townland). Only later did Presbyterian ministers usually start listing mother's Christian and sometimes maiden name and date of birth or age of child.
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Thanks aghadowey
do you think it would be possible that Solomon would have married in the
same church
Elaine
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Marriages usually, although not always, took place in the bride's church.
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Thanks aghadowey
just have to keep digging around
Elaine
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You must also not be too quick to assume that you've found a relative because of what you think is an uncommon name. If Solomon is a family name there could easily be more than one person in the family with the same name living in the area at the same period.
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Hi aghadowey
thanks for the advice
but I really wasn't assuming that Solomon and Betty Ann were my relatives
I am not even sure the one born 1796 is mine either
and wont be until I find the Solomon born 1822
I just thought if Solomon married in the same church as his daughter was baptised
it would give the name of his wife which may give me a lead as a middle name for any of the children
and what I meant when I said to Lorisg that maybe I could now find Solomon and Ruth was
that as there were Given's in that Parish
mine might be there too
Elaine
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Elaine, I don't have a baptismal certificate I'm afraid. All I have is someone's typed list of baptisms 1805-1812, 1818, 1825,1826. Sorted by surname, so William, son of Thomas GIVEN of Blakes just made it - 1805 Aug 09 no birthdate given, and Betty Ann, daughter of Solomon GIVEN of Blakes 1807 Sep 13
Aghadowey, would these be the only registers that have survived for the 1800s? Regards Loris in Queensland
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Elaine, I should have apologised for my mistakes in the first message I sent re the baptism of William
Thanks Aghadowey for the dates of the newspaper indexes you have access to. I'm sure you would have sent all the appropriate Gillespie, Kennedy and Murdock ones, but Mrs James Gillespie, whose death notice you found for me, and which was so very helpful, was said to be Mary Ann HUTCHISON, [probably born about 1797]. I have nothing more on either Mary Ann or her husband James, so would be grateful for anything further. Regards from Loris
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Hi there,
this is great- I am descended from Robert Murdock and Martha Gillespie. My great grandfather was their son James (born 1858 and not listed on the IGI). They ended up moving to Glasgow, and my great-grandfather and later his brother Robert (born 1868) moved to Saskatchewan to homestead around 1890 (I'm Canadian). I've got a photo of James and Robert from around the turn of the century.
I'd love to find out more about the Derry Gillespies if you do have info.
All the best
Andy
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Hello Andy, great to hear from you and I'll say welcome on behalf of the other contributors to the topic. To actually find another cousin is wonderful. My home email is (*) if you would like to reply there, so we can exchange documents. My Joseph Gillespie was the younger brother of your Martha, I have Martha's marriage certificate if you don't yet have that. Do you know anything of the other brothers and sisters? Joseph emigrated alone to Queensland, Australia and married soon after arrival, had nine children [all in Qld] of which the eldest was my grandfather James. Yes, me too. Looking forward to further contact, Your 'cousin' Loris
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My apologies, Aghadowey. I guess I just got a bit too enthusiastic. It's great to have this on-going forum. Regards Loris
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Hi Loris,
great to hear from you. I know nothing of the Gillespies, or the Murdochs, beyond the generation of Martha and James, so I would love to see the marriage certificate. I only found out recently that the family was from Ireland- I had found my GGrandfather's birth certificate (in Glasgow) and had been searching in vain in Scotland and then remembered that somone in the family had said the Murdochs were from Ireland, so I was delighted to find them there- especially since Irish records are somewhat scarce. Interesting to hear about your family in Australia. I lived there myself for six years when I was a kid, in Avalon near Sydney.
cheers
Andy
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Hello again Andy, I would be pleased to exchange Martha [Gillespie] Murdoch's marriage record for her son James' birth certificate! From the dates, James would be Martha's first or second child; would you agree that they must have gone to Scotland soon after marriage, returned to N Ire, then back to Glasgow?
Aghadowey, could you explain how I should arrange a PM? Or do you have any other suggestion please? Regards from Loris
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Aghadowey, I've now looked up the Help list as I should have done earlier, and will try the PM system by following directions after a few more posts. from Loris
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Hi Loris,
I don't have the birth certificate of James- I have his marriage certificate. I could send you that for sure.
Andy
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Thanks Andy, that would be just as welcome.There are details under Help of how to send a Personal Message, but you might be better at understanding that than I am. Until we can work out how to make contact directly, I'll transcribe the marriage details here. 'Marriage at Articlave, in the parish of Dunboe, in the county of Londonderry; 18 December 1856, Robert Murdoch, of full age, bachelor, baker; residence: Newtown limavardy? City, son of Robert Murdoch, farmer. - to Martha Jane Gillespie, full age, spinster, - , residence: Exorna, dau of James Gillespie, farmer. Married in the first Dunboe Meeting house - Presbyterian - by license, by me, William Lyle. Hope this helps a little, regards from Loris
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It may be of note that there were at least two large Gillespie families in the Limavady area at this time. They stretched from Limavady, through Ballykelly to Eglinton.
Regards
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Thank You Kingskerswell. Would you have any more details of the family of James Gillespie b.c.1790? farmer of Exorna in 1830s to 1850s? Regards from Loris
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Loris, Afraid not, only what it says in Griffith that he farmed roughly fourteen and a half acres in 1858/9 in the area. My Gillespie interests are more towards the city of Londonderry side.
Regards
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Thanks anyway, shame we couldn't connect our families. Are you in Australia too, same time zone? Loris
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No,Loris, I am a Londonderry man, about 10 hours behind!!
Regards
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Hello Andorf and others interested, I'm still trying to find some more of today's generation, descendants of James Gillespie of Exorna, so would love to hear some more of your family, and happy to share mine
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Hello Aghadowey, Have just found my Sarah Kennedy at Quilly on 1901 and 1911 census as widow with single adult children. Back in 2008 you were helping me with Gillespie/Kennedy/Murdoch round Dunboe parish and said you thought a friend of yours was descended from Kennedy of Quilly. Could you check that out for me please? Most grateful Loris
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Sorry, but have lost touch with friend- did actually try to email her a while ago but she must have changed email.
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Thanks anyway Aghdowey, for such a prompt reply. Can't believe we're on opposite sides of the world! Loris
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I am related to the Gillespie family of Limavady ... infact, I still have a Great Aunt who lives there. I am trying to find information on Robert Gillespie (b. 1880, d. 1924) who married Eliza Jane (or Elizabeth) Garvin (b. 1886, d. 1968). Robert was the son of Daniel Gillespie (circa 1850) .. I think. I cannot find any information on Daniel or the name of his wife. Can anyone help??
Sue