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Title: Elijah Brueton *COMPLETED*
Post by: sallyyorks on Friday 08 October 10 17:01 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
Im looking for any information about this family from the birmingham/staffs area

elijah (elizah) brueton is my grt grt granpa,
im trying to find the family before  this 1861 census in birmingham (bishop ryder)
 
joseph brueton b.1815 darlaston, staffs
susannah brueton (possibly nee fernan) b.1815 birmingham
elizah (elijah) brueton b.1853 birmingham (nephew)
somdonia sobre brueton b.1855 birmingham (niece)
thomas whitehouse b 1845 birmingham  , son
thanks , best wishes
sally
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: patrish on Friday 08 October 10 18:57 BST (UK)
Can you please post thier occupations as per the 61 census as that would help to try and find them.
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: goldie61 on Friday 08 October 10 21:00 BST (UK)
On pilotsearch, Joseph Bruerton ch at St Lawrence Darlaston 9th May 1813 to Joseph and Phoebe. Joseph and Phoebe Dangerfield married 25 Aug 1805 Darlaston.
No Elijah born about 1853, but there is an Elijah ch 14th June 1818 ST LAwrence to  Joseph and Phoebe. Elijah's (1853) father? Or maybe a family name. Quite a lot of Brueton's on this site.
Happy hunting!
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Saturday 09 October 10 13:17 BST (UK)
thankyou for your replies

patrish , joseph is listed as a - gun breech forger - ,
a relative did mention that they  may have been involved with a scrap iron business , "iron furniture reformers"  i think she said ,
this business may have been scrap iron based also
 - messrs  bruerton , cale and holland  iron works - nr bilston , (one of my grt grandads was a holland , b . late 19th c ? )
goldie , thankyou so much , i think this must be joseph , not only have you found two more generations but the spelling has probably given us the  correct pronunciation of our name !, (something we have always wondered about) ,pronounced bruerton instead of bruton
thanks again
 

Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: dusty2 on Sunday 10 October 10 15:54 BST (UK)
Just to add a couple of twigs onto the tree, Elijah (the son, assuming it is he) had twins baptised in Saltley at St Saviour's/ Details -  Lily and Mary, twin daughters of Elijah and Janet BRUETON, of 59 Havelock Road, he an engine driver (probably with the Midland Railway, working at Saltley engine sheds), twins born 4 July 1885, baptised 19 April 1899.
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Monday 11 October 10 14:59 BST (UK)
" a couple of twigs " , what a lovely expression  :)
thankyou
yes thats us , my grt grandpa is leonard the twins brother
mum is janet moncreiff  from perthshire
thankyou for the extra info
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Friday 15 October 10 14:52 BST (UK)
some more unusual bruerton/brueton christian names

on the 1861 census at darlaston is a

diope dyappy bruerton (female)

we had  been a bit puzzled but of course ! how could we have missed it 

dyappy means diehappy  , also there is a  bruerton recorded as christian name  dayhappy


Name Diehappy Bruerton
Gender Female
Baptism/Christening Date 07 Apr 1806
Baptism/Christening Place SAINT LAWRENCE,DARLASTON NEAR WOLVERHAMPTON,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
 
Father's Name John Bruerton
Mother's Name Mary
 
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Thursday 02 December 10 22:30 GMT (UK)
Hi    I am the Gt Gt Grandaughter of Elijah Brueton and have a full family tree.    Elijah had
two sons and twins   I am descended throughLeonard who had two sons Ronald and Leonard
Leonard being my father.   His other son was Howard and he had twin daughters May and Lily.   
As I can account from all Leonards part of the family tree I think you must come from Howards side
which has been part of an ongoing puzzle for me.   Howard married Louisa Caroline Griffiths in 1906
and they had two sons and two daughters.   Howard died in 1918 and Louisa married again (Bythall)
It is those four children and their offspring that I am trying to locate now.   They are Howard Elijah born Aston 1908 Lily May Birming 1910 Edith Born 1911 and Leonard J Born Aston 1915.      Please get in touch and lets see if I can help sort everything out.   I know we are related by asome of the names you mention.   PatBw
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Friday 03 December 10 21:23 GMT (UK)
Elijah Brueton was a Train Driver    Born 1853   lived at 4 Back 5 Cathcart St Aston at the 1881 census    Married to Janet Moncrieff born 1854     He died in Conway of a heart attack after taking
a train there from a heartattack.    She died 1913 aged 59   Attached is a photo of him at his
son Leonard;s marriage to Ethel Crompton in Ormskirk in 1913. .   
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Monday 06 December 10 13:28 GMT (UK)
this is so great to be in touch with  a cousin , thankyou for your reply and the pm's , what a great website
and an actual photo of elijah , wow
smashing stuff
looking forward to more pm's
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Monday 06 December 10 18:27 GMT (UK)
Hi   Sally   I cannot get anything accepted on the email addy    Can you getr a friend to accept
them for you?        I have tried to send photos and a file  Pat.
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Thursday 10 March 11 13:03 GMT (UK)
thankyou so much pat


elijah
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: allanh53 on Tuesday 22 November 11 23:50 GMT (UK)
is this the same family? Ethel brueton remarried after the death of leonard brueton (1920) to Joseph henry wrathall in 1924 in ormskirk. Ethel and Joseph are my grandparents who i lived with to Ethels death in 1960 and Josephs death in 1975 who are both buried in barrow-in-furness cemetry.
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Wednesday 23 November 11 21:45 GMT (UK)
Hi although have sent you a private email I am told this might not reach you.    My name is pat bowen and my email address is (*)    I am the grand daughter of Elija Brueton and Janet Moncrieff.   Ethel is mygrandmother on my fathers side I have a full family tree and photographs which includes family photographs including the Wrathall family and knew them
all personally.   Ethels younger sister died recently at the age of 104.   I am picking that you are the grandson of either May or Doris.   Please contact me.   Either through the group or privately
and I will help your research      Pat Bowen




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Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: allanh53 on Wednesday 23 November 11 22:57 GMT (UK)
Hi pat dont know how to send private message on here so sent you an email hope to hear from you soon  Allan
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: Housemartin on Sunday 27 November 11 01:26 GMT (UK)
Hi,

My father-in-law 's father's cousin Ernest Glascott was married to a Florence E Mould.  Her parents were Albert James Mould and Dianna Breuton.  Dianna had brothers called Alfred, Thomas and Theophilus and sisters called Betsey, Emily, Sarah ann and Sandrin Sabrel.  Her father's name was Thomas and her mother was Sarah.  Are these Bruetons related.  Thomas was born in Darleston, Staffordshire.  In 1861 he lived at 2, 2 Court, Henry Street, Aston, Birmingham and was a gun barrel welder.  Are they related to your Bruetons???

Kind regards

Jeanette
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Sunday 27 November 11 08:44 GMT (UK)
I am a Gt Granddaughter of Elijah Brueton    I now live in New Zealand and have researched
my oiwn family tree the names you mention are not on it but if you put the name Dianna Brueton
up on the internet and do a google search there is some information there on Dianna Brueton
Theophilus and Thomas were family names and there were a lot of them around the Darlaston
Area.    I will see what else I can fnd for you.     
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: Housemartin on Tuesday 29 November 11 04:16 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Thanks, that would be great.  I have become confused with Theophilus as there seems to be two of them.  I will see if I can find more information also :-)

Kind regards,

Jeanette
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Tuesday 29 November 11 06:13 GMT (UK)
Hi   The official Brueton Scribe is named Christopher Brueton so I am going to put the question to him.    There were definitely gun barrel makers amongst our lot.     It gets more and more interesting the futher it goes into it..    Pat.
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Tuesday 29 November 11 14:55 GMT (UK)
hi everyone :)
yes  a theophilus does appear  in our  tree ,
he is one of the  brothers of  elijahs dad (also called elijah b 1818) so we are probably the same extended family

also variations of somdonia , sindonia , sabra and sindane seem to appear more than
once ,

bruEton ,spelt with the  E, seems to be the birmingham spelling of the name bruerton , i have also seen it spelt brewerton and bruton
 im tending  to think that bruerton and brewerton may be  variants of the same family name
in the early records brueton/bruerton/brewertons seem to be quite a small  family but spread out ,
all the early census ones iv come across have been metal workers of one type or another ,   
link to a one name  study i came across online  of
 brewerton (with variant bruerton)
  http://www.one-name.org/profiles/brewerton.html
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Tuesday 29 November 11 18:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Sally    I do not have that brother down.   I cannot contact you direct.      My emails keep comingback      Reason - There are too many unsolicited emails coming from your email address.
Please contact again bujt see if you can sort your end out.    Pat.
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: PatBw on Thursday 01 December 11 08:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah    The Theopullis you mention is not the right one the brothers and sisters do not fit.
There is nothing I can do from this end.    You have to get hold of your server to sort it out
I have tried and all I get is that you are permanently unavailable   Will check with Chris with the Dianna Brueton query     Pat..
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Thursday 01 December 11 14:05 GMT (UK)
hi pat
thankyou for the info re my email , i wasnt aware i had a problem re spam , but will get onto it straight away , until i have sorted it out we could always use the pm system on this site  :)

re a theophilus bruerton , ( though there are a few theophilius bruertons so not sure how related) 


brother of this thread elijah's b1853 father 
also named *elijah b1818

they are very hard to find , as usual , but here they are
on the 1841 census 

mistranscribed as "branton" but on looking at  the original image it is actually bruerton or brueton  , also elijah is  *"elizah" , his age  listed in the male column


1841 census birmingham - aston - duddeston and nechells
new wharf street

joseph bruerton age 52 - gun furniture m (maker)  - n (not born in county)
pheobe bruerton age 49 - n
*elizah bruerton age 23 - auger m  - n
theophilus bruerton age 20 - e??e tool m - y (yes born in county)
henry bruerton age 18 - gun barrel m - y
charles bruerton age 15 - file m apr - y
john bruerton age 12 - y

ho 107/1149/11
Folio: 13; Page: 19;




Title: Re: Elijah Brueton *COMPLETED*
Post by: sallyyorks on Friday 02 December 11 15:22 GMT (UK)
edit
note . pheobe dangerfield is not the same pheobe (nee ?) as this family
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton *COMPLETED*
Post by: sallyyorks on Friday 10 February 12 17:58 GMT (UK)
With many  thanks especially to Pat and also another cousin for this info. 

So far   

Elijah Brueton (b1853 Birmingham,Warks) marries Janet Moncrieff  in -jan qrt -1879 -Aston, Warks, 
^
Elijah Brueton (b 1818 Darlaston,Staffs) marries Mary Ann Newey in  -oct qrt - 1845 - Birmingham ,Warks
^
Joseph Bruerton (b 1789 Darlaston,Staffs)  marries *Phoebe ? (born Handsworth, Staffs 1792) - in ? 
^
The spelling of the name "Brueton"  can/does vary considerably .
They seem to have mostly been metal workers of one type or another in and around the Warks/Staffs area .
According to spoken family history "The Neweys and Bruetons have been interlinked for a long long time" .


(*we think not Phoebe Dangerfield , who probably marries a different joseph bruerton)


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Title: Re: Elijah Brueton *COMPLETED*
Post by: Brewerton1949 on Sunday 01 April 12 20:35 BST (UK)
Hi, I run the one-name study on the name Brewerton variant Bruerton. Sally has just made contact with me. I am having problems tying Elijah 1853 to Elijah 1818. He is not on the 1861 census. Any thoughts
Many thanks
Jeanie.
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton *COMPLETED*
Post by: sallyyorks on Saturday 07 April 12 13:27 BST (UK)
Hi Jeanie  :)

transcribed as Brereton
1861 census  25 Court hen???y St , Aston, Birmingham
Elizah (elijah) Brereton 1819 Darlaston , Staffs - auger forger
Mary A 1820 Birmingham , Warks - wife (nee Newey)
George 1842 - auger screwer
Sarah 1846 - spoon ?ander
Emily 1849 - gilt toy maker
Anna 1856
Joseph 1858
Edward 1860
(all children born Birmingham)


1861 census , Sheep st , Birmingham
Joseph Brueton b.1815 darlaston, staffs - gun breech forger
Susannah b.1815 Birmingham - wife
Elizah (elijah)  Brueton b.1853 Birmingham (nephew)
Somdonia Sobre  Brueton b.1855 Birmingham (niece)
Thomas Whitehouse b 1845 birmingham , gun breech forger , son
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton
Post by: sallyyorks on Monday 10 December 12 01:52 GMT (UK)
Hi,

My father-in-law 's father's cousin Ernest Glascott was married to a Florence E Mould.  Her parents were Albert James Mould and Dianna Breuton.  Dianna had brothers called Alfred, Thomas and Theophilus and sisters called Betsey, Emily, Sarah ann and Sandrin Sabrel.  Her father's name was Thomas and her mother was Sarah.  Are these Bruetons related.  Thomas was born in Darleston, Staffordshire.  In 1861 he lived at 2, 2 Court, Henry Street, Aston, Birmingham and was a gun barrel welder.  Are they related to your Bruetons???

Kind regards

Jeanette
Have just noticed something else in your post . The address  "2 , 2  Court , Henry St "  (i think this means 2 house 2 court , and so  probably quite an overcrowded confined place ). This is where our family stay too in 1861 ( above) .
I am so silly for missing your point  ! . Your post has added more confirmation that your Thomas is indeed  the eldest brother of the sons  of Joseph b 1789 and Phoebe (probably nee Perry) . 
In 1841 your Thomas (occ Smith) and Sarah are  living Lye Waste area Worcs with little Alfred . Lye Waste is an area that might also  tie in with other family .
Thankyou Jeanette  (Housemartin)  :)
Title: Re: Elijah Brueton *COMPLETED*
Post by: pixter on Tuesday 06 June 17 18:41 BST (UK)
Hello, Elijah Brueton and Janet are my G G Grandparents. I would be fascinated to see the photo of him. May Brueton My dad remembers well.apparently she was born with just one arm !