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Any info on John 1833- and Maryjane ne.Mullen 1836- Toy/Tighe who left Glasgow for South America after 1881 with children Susan,Anne,Maggie,Patrick andElizabeth? Might have been to Chile.
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I take it they're on the 1881 census and then vanish after that?
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Yes.Can't find any online records for Chile,assuming thats where they ended up.Am I on the right board?
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I spose it depends if you feel you're a beginner or not!
There's migration records on Find My Past:
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/
I had a look but couldn't really find anything (you can search for free but you have to pay to see transcriptions or scans of the original document).
I've checked John Toy and John Tighe on the UK incoming passanegers database and got nothing, I'm afraid (just in case they came back!).
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Thanks.I believe Maryanne did go back once,I'll have a look on findmypast.
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Looked for Mary Toy, Mary Tighe, Maryanne Toy, Mary Anne Toy, Maryanne Tighe, Mary Anne Tighe, with the date of birth plus or minus 1836 and couldn't find anything. This was on incoming passengers, which is on Ancestry. ???
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Thanks again.What I need is a south american connection, pity there was only one son.Maybe the name just died out.
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Hi,
Could this be a grandchild, Maggie's daughter?
Colen Campbell Grant Tighe b 27 NOV 1898 Ercilla, Ix-Region, Chile
Parents: Campbell Grant and Maggien Tighe
married Rosa Adela Fellay 1922 Chile
died cir 1972
It is a member submitted entry on the IGI so should be checked if possible.
I also found this on the Ancestral file, possibly your Patrick or a relation?
Patricio TIGHE b cir 1879 Ireland married Annie Scott
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If this is your family on the 1871 and 1881 census then it looks like there is more than one son. I can't see the imagse to check, maybe someone else will be able to take a look,
1871 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Waddells Land
LOY ???
John Head 38 Surface Man Ireland
Mary Wife 35 Ireland
Thomas Son 16 Labourer Bil Work Ireland
Wm Son 14 Labourer On Pit Head Ayrshire
John Son 12 Labourer In Pit Argyllshire
Mary Daur 10 Scholar Argyllshire
Susan Daur 7 Scholar Argyllshire
Ann Daur 3 Argyllshire
Margaret Daur 10 Mo Old Monk, Lanark
1881 New Monkland, Lanarkshire
9 Waddell'S Place
TOY
John Head 48 General Laborer Ireland
Margaret Wife 44 Ireland
John Son 22 Black Smith Invenhillen, Argyleshire
Annie Daur 13 "
Maggie Daur 11 Scholar Whifflet, Lanarkshire
Patrick Son 7 Scholar "
Elizabeth Daur 5 Scholar "
Susan Daur 16 Domestic Servant Invenhillen, Argyleshire
Looking on the IGI I think Invenhillen is supposed to be Inverchaolain.
Regards
Daisy
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Hi Copright editor,
Please can you tell me why you have removed the incoming passenger information? I transcribed the information myself from the image.
The information source quotes,
'Data imaged from the National Archives, London, England. The National Archives gives no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to the National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU.'
Not being completely sure about copyright of trancriptions of images I called the National Archives and explained he situation that I had transcribed an image of a passenger list to a message board to help a fellow researcher, not for a fee etc. and they told me 'If transcribing from a NA document there is no copyright violation and no fee, unless I was reproducing the actual image.'
So I'm not sure what copyright violation you think I have made :-\
Regards,
Daisy
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Thanks Daisy,this could be my Maggie.Not my Patrick though.Census records, same family but the other sons stayed in Scotland.Any ideas on what occupations these immigrants had in Chile?When they were in Inverchaolain I believe it was forestry work.So there's incoming passenger info.out there somewhere?
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I too am intrigued by what happened to the Tighe family. As far as I can tell it is John his wife Mary Jane Mullins and children William Elizabeth and Patrick that are unaccounted for after the 1881 census. I have info on the other children indicating John and Mary Jane were still alive as late as 1893.
Can anyone share why Chile might be where they went?
John
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Hi John.What do you have on John and Maryjane after 93?I have more info on susan and Annie and it looks like Maggie married in Chile.William is on the 81 census living with Thomas and his wife.Thanks,Meara
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Meara,
Susan Tighe died unmarried in 1893 in Broxburn at age 28. Her death record does not note her parents, John and Mary Jane Mullen as being deceased. Margaret Tighe married Peter Floody in the Broxburn Catholic Church on June 29, 1888.
I can't account for John, his wife Mary Jane, their children Patrick and Elizabeth nor Margaret and her husband Peter Floody.
What makes you think/suspect they went to Chile?
John
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Thanks for that John.My connection is Maryjane and John were my G.G.Grandparents.G.Grandfather was John[lot of Johns here].It was always a vague rumour about part of the family going to Chile,hence my interest.I have Annie travelling from Valparaiso to Liverpool Aug.1891 then marrying in Oct.Andrew McClay in Broxburn.Marriage cert.says John was then a farmer,I presume in Chile.Susan also travelled from Talcahuano to Liverpool in 1892.Do you also know that other brothers Thomas and William lived near Broxburn in '81? Meara
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Meara,
Well then we are related as John Tighe and Mary Jane Mullens Tighe were also my great great grandparents. I had thought that they returned to Ireland after the 1881 census as no family lore about Chile has been passed down though my side of the family which is through Mary Tighe Murphy. My Mother was given Tighe as her middle name.
I have William at your great grandfather John’s wedding in Brigeton on November 1, 1882 and then nothing after that for William but more for John and his family to share.
Ann’s husband Andrew McLay is also related to me by my Uncle’s marriage to Elizabeth Duffy McLay.
Tommy died in Broxburn in 1930 18 days after my great grandmother Mary died and just months after my family came to America.
Thank you for the information about Anne and Susan’s incoming voyages. I will follow up.
Regards
John
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Meara and others
Glad to inform you that I accidentally came across this forum and to my surprise, it seems that we share common ancestors. We are the Floody / Thiges from Chile you were looking for. Peter Floody and Margaret Thige Mullen settled in Ercilla, Chile, at an unknown date in the late 1880¨s and their offsprings in Chile are now quite numerous. My grandfather was Patricio Floody Thige and married my grandmother; Beatrice Buxton Doxey in Ercilla. Ercilla was a common destination place for British immigrants. Since I am not very familiar with genealogy, I will post further facts once I gather information about the chilean side of the family.
Regards
Ricardo
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Welcome to Rootschat. It's lovely when different branches of a family find each other here- just remember we aren't allowed to post details of living people, email addresses etc.
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Hi Ricardo,good to hear from you.Maggie's brother John was my greatgrandfather and he stayed in Scotland.I believe Maggie's parents John and Maryjane also went to Chile with son Patrick and daughter Elizabeth some time after 1888.I would like to know what work they did there,if you've any questions on the Tighe history I'd be glad to help...Meara
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I believe Peter Floody was the son of Patrick Floody of Co. Monaghan Ireland.
See http://ahd.exis.net/monaghan/floody.htm
Peter married Margaret Tighe in Broxburn, near Edinburgh, and emigrated to Chile.
I would love to learn more about the Floody/Tighe connections in Chile, especially the long sea voyage that they must have endured!
I have also posted on the genforum floody page, and communicated with John Rice. He found Peter some years ago. Strangely I have a 1st cousin 2x who married Edward Toye in Rhode Island US. Small world!
Regards,
A. Harney
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I'm afraid I still don't know much about what happened in Chile,some journey too, considering some of them travelled back to Scotland and back again.All will be revealed eventually...Meara
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On a new to me website CWG gravesite pictures:
http://www.twgpp.org/index.php
Commonwealth War Graves Photo Project...
Search on Floody returned the following:
http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=768550
John Floody
25/02/40 Aged 28 Panel 24. Son of Peter and Margaret Floody. [TIGHE?]
Thomas Henry Floody is a known ancestor. He was the son of the brother of Peter - Denis in Newcastle.
http://ahd.exis.net/monaghan/floody.htm
Lots of Tighe's, Toye's and Toy's listed.
One Joseph Tighe
28th July 1918. Age 19. Son of Thomas and Margaret Tighe of Hawthorn Cottage Broxburn West Lothian. III. B. 5.
HTH,
Ann
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Thanks again Ann.My granduncle was also Joseph Tighe and died at the Somme in 1916,first cousin to Joseph who died in 1918.So although John Floody was born in Chile [I think]he's on the Memorial in London.Still looking for info on Chile...Meara
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Ann, Margaret Tighe Floody's brothers,John and Thomas were the fathers of the two Josephs.
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Hello :I·m a new member of rootschat.English is not my native language,so excuse the mispellings and errors.I have a direct conection with the Tighe and Floody families in Chile.My GGrandmother was Margaret (maggie) Tighe Mullen and my GGrand father was Peter Floody ?.They arrived to Chile in the late 1888 or early 1889.,along with Patrick and William Tighe ,brothers of Margaret.They settled down in southern Chile at the village of Ercilla in the Araucanía region. Warmest regards.
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Hello: back again with Tighe family in Chile.I think to this point that it is useful a little bit of history .By 1850 the Chilean government was making a great effort to populate a vast area in the south of the country which was virtually inhabited,and known as the "frontier".For this purpose there were immigration offices throughout Europe and also in the British Isles,so i guess that the family heard about this opportunity to seek new horizons and finally made up their mind and took the trip to the "end of the world".The great majority of immigrants were Germans,Swiss,French,Irish ,Scottish ,English,and many other European minorities.Upon their arrival each family were given land to work as farmers along with the tools and supplies to start their living.most of them succedeed and within a few years their lives impproved a lot.On the other hand a few of them for various reasons didn't make it or decided to re-emigrate.the Tighe family ,that is Patrick,William,Margaret and her husband Peter Floody had a beautifull and prosperous farm of some 300 hectares named "Caledonia" located 5 miles from the village where they lived
About other members of the family that some of you mention,I have no records up to now but trying to find out.In my opinion if they came to Chile along with the others,they definitively came back to Scotland ,ireland or some other countries for unknown reasons,for I'm certain that they did not stay in this area or even in the surroundings. In my next post I will continue this sort of story and be very happy to share with you all this fascinating trip to the past. Best Regards
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Thanks so much for the story. It is exciting to learn about the Chilean branch of this family! That was a great bit of faith to travel so far in those early times!
Can you tell us of the family born to Peter and Margaret? And with whom we are corresponding! Your English is great - no errors at all.
Slainte!
Ann Harney
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Hi Meara! How Are you? My G.G. grandfather was Peter Floody who was married to Margaret Tighe. I have the following information: They came to Chile on September 17th 1888 on a Ship named "Aconcagua" She was 19 years old an he 23. They arrived to Talcahuano and then went to Ercilla where they have some lands asignated. Im going to find out a little more so i can tell you the whole story. Also i wanted to ask you about our ancestors in Scotland.
Best Regards from Chile
Maria
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Hi Maria. Looking forward to hearing any info you have re. the Tighe family in Chile. Also if you have any questions please just ask. Meara