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Title: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: LoneyBones on Thursday 07 October 10 04:05 BST (UK)
 This might sound like a very silly thing to ask...or a very simple think to ask...or a very cheeky thing to ask. It's very possably a very difficult thing to ask....
But, every year when I update my security I have to be extremely careful to disable the Child Protection component because it bans any website with the term CHAT within it's name.
Since I have two computers, I have to this twice, and often I stuff up and have to delete the whole program and start again. It's a painful process for someone who is only semi-literate when it comes to computers.
I doubt I'm alone in this, many security systems have Child Protection components which do the same thing.
ROOTSCHART is only adding one little letter, 99% of people wouldn't even notice...in fact, there's probably people out there who pronounce it that way. It's still saying what the site is about, charting our family history rather than chatting about our family history.
So, Tristan, would this be a difficult thing for you to do? If it involves paying for licences and other convoluted legal stuff, forget it...I don't want to cause you any more problems than you must be facing every day with all us finikity people. 
Is it do-able? Can we at least think about it?     Please?
Leonie.
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: majm on Thursday 07 October 10 06:34 BST (UK)
Sometimes (about once a week) I get alert messages from my anti-virus thingy about "Rootschat" I had guessed (without ever checking) it was the "roots" bit rather than "chat" and I have to go through similar techie stuffs too...  I like the thought about "chart" v "chat" but of course it could mean changes to licence stuffs and other legalities so like Leonie says I too don't want to cause any more problems for you Tristan. 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 07 October 10 07:55 BST (UK)
....  it was the "roots" bit rather than "chat" and I have to go through similar techie stuffs too...  Cheers,  JM

I think you are right about that JM - it's an Aussie thing.  ;)
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 07 October 10 08:15 BST (UK)
....  it was the "roots" bit rather than "chat" and I have to go through similar techie stuffs too...  Cheers,  JM

I think you are right about that JM - it's an Aussie thing.  ;)

and a NZ thing :)

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: majm on Thursday 07 October 10 08:19 BST (UK)
Yep,
For non Aussies and non NZ'ders  ;D  the offending word that Ruskie and I notice is and was considered "rude"  and in past decades could be grounds for divorce if it involved an illegal activity...

In divorce papers from circa 1890's in NSW the legal words would often be to the effect that Mr XYZ was found in "criminal conversation" with Mrs ABC etc thus Mr ABC would be granted a divorce regardless of any other issues (eg battering of his wife over extended periods).  

Sometimes Mrs ABC would choose to nominate a fictional Mr XYZ and a fictional date for such criminal conversation just to be rid of Mr ABC  ;D  ;D  ;D

(And of course sometimes Mrs ABC would be seeking a divorce because of Mr ABC's criminal conversations (fictional or otherwise).  Took until mid 1970's to get legislation for NO FAULT divorces through Parliament in Australia.  100 years of divorce laws with main thrust concentrating on "adultery stuffs" before no fault divorces.

Cheers, JM
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: Ringrose on Thursday 07 October 10 09:58 BST (UK)
Sometimes I get Rootschat messages in junk mail.
Ringrose
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 07 October 10 10:00 BST (UK)
Do you need Child Protection turned on?  I never have it turned on as my laptop is rarely used by any grandchildren and even when it is I am sitting with them.  I don't have to disable it every year when I renew my Firewall etc.

Lizzie
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: helvissa on Thursday 07 October 10 10:01 BST (UK)
What kind of a world do we live in when children have to be protected from the word 'chat'? They can go into a newsagents and see all manner of topless women with unfeasible breasts, but no, let's block the word 'chat'. Madness.
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: Daisy Loo on Thursday 07 October 10 10:11 BST (UK)
It is madness...BUT...

It is well documented and known, that "chat" rooms are a well known "resource" for pedophiles - and they use all forms of chat forums/rooms/sites to target unsuspecting and somewhat innocent  youngsters.  I know of one incidence in my own personal sphere where this happened.  Fortunately, it was caught, by an observant parent, and the police were involved.  better to be safe than sorry...especially when it involves children.

Leonie, is there no way, that you cannot just make an exception for the "Rootschat" website?  Are there no options on your security program for exceptions?
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: helvissa on Thursday 07 October 10 10:14 BST (UK)
I'm aware of that but it seems like a shame that in order to protect people, things can sometimes go so overboard. I had a lecture once on website blocking in public libraries - it's a minefield.
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 07 October 10 10:21 BST (UK)
Sometimes I get Rootschat messages in junk mail.
Ringrose

Yes, that was where most of mine went years ago when I was on another site  with Roots as its title, notified the ISP that it was to do with genealogy and from then on had no more going into SPAM.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: Ringrose on Thursday 07 October 10 10:37 BST (UK)
Ive had 2 messages this morning---one about Rootschart going to junk mail and the other direct to my inbox. Perhaps we need to think about the titles we use in the message.
Ringrose
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: LoneyBones on Thursday 07 October 10 11:44 BST (UK)
Well, nothing yet from Tristan. Maybe he's thinking about it...or maybe he's not.  ;D
Anyway, I think it's definitely the CHAT part of the name, my antivirus is American built. They don't have a problem with Roots, since they had a long running and very popular TV program with that title.
As Daisy Loo says, (I nearly wrote Daisy Boo.  ::) ) chat rooms are known pick-ups for nasty people. Also it's the amount of time wasted by kids on chat room sites. We adults can waste as much time chatting as we like.  ;D
It only takes a moment for me to untick the child protection component when I'm installing the security suite, but it is a matter of "un-ticking". And how many times do we remember to un-tick? That's one of the really big traps of online selling.
In the last few days I've had about a dozen notifications from Rootschat for PMs in my emails on my PC, not one made it into my lap top, 'cos I forgot to un-tick the bl**dy Child Protection and haven't got around to the uninstall and re-download stuff.  ::) I can't come onto Rootschat on my lap top until I do that either. Even on my PC it takes a few messages retreaved from my antispam before the program gets the message.
I mean, this isn't something  life shattering, it's just a little thorn in my side. If it's something that's simple to do, that would be fantastic, but if not, I'll live with it.
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: retired-admin on Thursday 07 October 10 14:52 BST (UK)
Please be aware that Trystan has a full time job and cannot react immediately to every query on RootsChat.

I am not speaking for him here, but please note:

Thursday 07 October 10 14:43 BST (UK)  Members: 129623  •  Posts: 2951548  •  Topics: 417720

This means that there could be nearly 3 million references to RootsChat in each of the many search engine databases
(Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc, etc, etc, etc).

This makes me think that it is very unlikely that the name will be changed.


administration
Title: Re: Could we be ROOTSCHART instead of ROOTSCHAT?
Post by: LoneyBones on Friday 08 October 10 10:18 BST (UK)
Thanks Admin, it was just a thought.
I figured it would be either quite simple or humungously imposable, but if you never ask, you'll never know.
Leonie.
 :D