RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Dorset => Topic started by: portholemike on Tuesday 05 October 10 20:13 BST (UK)

Title: parish record
Post by: portholemike on Tuesday 05 October 10 20:13 BST (UK)
hi all, i have traced my grtx3  grandad to being born at kinson,dorset,john penfold 1783 is there anyway
i could find ouy who his father was please.
  regards, portholemike
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: PrueM on Tuesday 05 October 10 20:30 BST (UK)
Hi portholemike  :)

I had a look in the Kinson baptisms on the Dorset Online Parish Clerk site (http://www.opcdorset.org/KinsonFiles/KinsonBaps.htm) but couldn't see any PENFOLDs. 

Where did you get your ggggrandfather's birth information from? 

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: nanny jan on Tuesday 05 October 10 20:40 BST (UK)
Hi,

I wonder if his birthplace was Kingston (near Corfe Castle) or Kington Magna and not Kinson?   :-\



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: portholemike on Tuesday 05 October 10 20:50 BST (UK)
hi pruem,  it was 1861 shirley south stoneham,hants [under the name penford] aged 78,born kingston,dorset, brush maker, and his wife charlotte[nee]palmer, age 79 born lancs 1782. i believe kingston is the old name for kinson.
regards, portholrmike
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: portholemike on Tuesday 05 October 10 21:01 BST (UK)
Hi,

I wonder if his birthplace was Kingston (near Corfe Castle) or Kington Magna and not Kinson?   :-\

hi nanny jan,thanks for your reply, loking at other descendants of his they all seemed to have lived around dorset/hants, his son also called john married harriet james at pimperne, 2nd aug 1831,which is near kinson. regards portholemike

Nanny Jan
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: portholemike on Tuesday 05 October 10 22:34 BST (UK)
hi nanny jan, you could be right about kingston nr corfe castle, i did,nt realize that it was in the area,been on their site but no luck,
 regards,portholemike.
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: stockman fred on Tuesday 05 October 10 22:45 BST (UK)
I was investigating a  family rumour about a place called Kingston- it turned out that my folks lived at Kingston near Hazlebury Bryan.
As you mentioned Pimperne, would it be worth trying Winterborne Kingston, Kingston Lacey or even Tarrant Keyneston, as these are all nearer to Pimperne. There was also a Kingston Farm near Kingston Maurward on the way to Dorchester.
Fred :)
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: PrueM on Tuesday 05 October 10 23:31 BST (UK)
I went looking for John and Charlotte in 1851 (thinking it might help confirm the birthplace) but didn't find them, although I noticed that in 1861 they were living in a caravan, so perhaps if they were travellers they managed to 'skip' the census that year.
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: portholemike on Wednesday 06 October 10 10:08 BST (UK)
hi pruem,, thanks for all , with suggestions, if this is any help--south stoneham,hants,
d eath is registered of oct/nov/dec, 1868 aged 88.
--born 1783.
charlotte penfold born about 1781,death is registered of march 1874 aged 93.
his children,----john penfold in 1809 stourminster,[m] harriet james
olive penfold  29 march 1829 dorchester,dorset.
maria penfold 3 july 1831 brocken hurst,hants.
robert penfold    22nd june 1832  up nately ,hants.
sarah harriet penfold  3 nov 1833  st nicholas,brighton.
william penfold    11 may 1834 at hale,hampshire.
don,t know if this would help. regards,portholemike
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 06 October 10 13:38 BST (UK)
good afternoon
strange family i see charlotte in 1871 living with her daughter maria now a thompson and grandson henry born 1854 going backward with this lady (maria) she appears to be with her brother robert penfold in 1861 but roberts year of birth is stated as 1816  :-\ now iam confused you have a brother robert but birth 1832?? are there 2 sets of children for john penfold?
i will post the 1861 details in case you havent seen them?
living at rowcombe lane,uplyme devon in 1861-
robert penfold 45yrs married brush and mat maker born wiltshire
amelia 43yrs wife also a brush and mat maker born wiltshire
robert.m 23yrs son born southampton
thomas 12yrs son born exeter
james 11yrs son born bridgwater
ellot 8yrs daughter born ?
henry 6yrs son born yeovil
elizabeth 2yrs daughter born dorchester
priscilla 6months daughter born dorchester
maria thompson 29yrs sister hawker born hampshire
henry thompson 5yrs nephew born bath
SOURCE INFO-RG9-1370
FOLIO-104
PAGE-22
REGARDS]
ALLI
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 06 October 10 13:56 BST (UK)
incidentley i cant find this family either in 1851 or indeed 1841
 :-\
regards
alli
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: portholemike on Wednesday 06 October 10 19:07 BST (UK)
hi alibaker, thanks for your comments,i,am confused too, i came across this,1871 cencus,robert penfold has joined up with his brother,william,who also married a thompson girl called priscilla, mabe sisters and note there was another maria born 1832.  In the 1861 and the 1871 cencus, and we have yet another sister,patience,she may have married first an orchard,but then married thomas penfold,son of john and harriet penfold.
-------------------------------------------------
1871 cencus,robert penfold---age 58,born 1813 brimmer,wiltshire[3 years younger now].
regards,portholemike.
Title: Re: parish record
Post by: cathayb on Monday 08 December 14 17:22 GMT (UK)
this family is definately romany gypsy.there is a lot about them and a lot of relatives on the travellers page on here.they aregt.gt.gt.gt perants to us.charlotte and john.we are still looking for johns perants and charlottes perants.some census say she was born lancashire some say exeter???big difference,
 Pimperne, is where their son john married harriet james