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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: caroline_wex on Sunday 03 October 10 15:17 BST (UK)
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Hi!
I'm looking for information on the Murphy family who live in what was then called Carranrow. Luckily, the head of the family had a fairly distinctive name: Ferdinand (although I've also seen it listed as Frederick). Ferdinand Murphy married Mary Sinnott (Clone) in Monageer on 28/11/1867 when both were in their early/mid thirties... They went on to have ten children, some born in Clone, some in Carranrow:
Mary (born 25/10/1868 - died about 1947 - Mrs Murphy of Tincurry)
Thomas (born18/02/1870 - died 12/10/1959 - in Carranroe)
Catherine (born 14/04/1871 - died 26/09/1956 - Mrs Murphy of Chapell)
Aidan (born 07/01/1873 - died 11/09/1955 - in Carranroe)
Mary Ann (born 06/05/1874 - died ? - Mrs Neill of Newtown)
Margaret (born 15/09/1875 - died ? - Mrs Nugent of ?, Australia)
Sara (born 10/03/1877 - died ? - Mrs Doyle of Ballimanana)
Elizabeth (born 06/01/1879 - died ? - Mrs Ralph of Tombrack)
Annie (born 1890 - died 17/12/1971 - Mrs Neill of Tomatee/Carranrow)
Pierce (born 1882 - died 21/01/1890 - in Carranrow)
There were a number of Ferdinands living in Carranrow at the time of the census so I assume they are all related as the name is so unusual. Probably father, child and first cousin...
Any information would be hugely appreciated and happy to share anything I have on this side!
All the best,
Caroline
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Ferdinand is commonly known as Ferdie in Co Wexford.
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Hi! Tomahurra!
Yes... Ferdinand known as Ferdie now (I knew a descendent of Ferdinand Murphy of the same name but called Ferdie!) but only found Ferdinands and Fredericks in old records while looking for ancestors. That said, I don't know if I've searched for "Ferdie" in familysearch because of that, so might give it a try!
If anyone has any information or may be connected to this family, do give me a shout!
I know a limited amount about Ferdinand's own family which might help if you're related further up the tree...
Ferdinand's parents were Thomas Murphy (vaguely... born between 1782 - 1791, and died 02/11/1860 or 69 - died age 78!) and Mary (born about 1782 - died 24/12/1871)
Ferdinand (born about 1832 - died 15/05/1910) had at least two sisters and one brother that we know of:
Pierce (born abot 1821 - died 24/01/1898 in Tomanoole)
Mary (born ? - died 23/02/1848 as Mrs Cain) some talk about her marrying a french soldier who set up camp in Ballycarney?
Sarah (born about 1829 or 1831 - died 05/11/1882 aged 53 or 55 as Mrs Morrissey)
I'd assume their father Thomas Murphy would have had a brother called Ferdinand and that it was a family name...
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The current family living in Craanrue which are related to the Murphy is Whelan. Not sure now far back the church records of Castldorrell go but might be worth looking at the Bunclody records or even Kilmyshall record
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Thanks a million!
Yes, have shown the Whelans what I have so far but still trying to find out more details as they're still thin on the ground! Church records haven't really show any more info... but am trying to find other descendants and put more meat on the bones of what we have so far!
Thanks again!
Caroline
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http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php
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http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php
Here's a better website for Griffith's Valuation- you can see the scanned images and maps:
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
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MURPHY***July 25, at Craanroe, William MURPHY, formerly Poor law Guardian for Castledockrill, at the age of 74 years.Poor law Guardian similar to todays County Councillor.Minutes of poor law meeting on mirco film wexford library
http://www.nli.ie/digital-photographs.aspx type in craanroe or ferns in search box
http://billhaneman.ie/IMM/IMM-XX.html look at the section on john byrne
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Hi Caroline,Pat Bolger is my name from Tombrack.I am a decendant of the murphys of Craanrow.I would like to chat sometime.
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Brilliant to hear from ye all and thanks a million for the links. I'd found the section a while ago on John Byrne and wished they had more about William Murphy in it! The photo is a lovely one, especially as the people involved were such lovely people...
Tomahurra, if you're related, please send me a message with your email address and I'll happily share what I have! Pat - just emailed you now as well.
All the best,
Caroline
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Hi,
I have been working through some information re my family tree left to me by my mother.
It seems I am an Australian descendant of Ferdinand Murphy (named in the information left to me by my mother and my grandmother). I am excited to have come across the information in the thread!
My grandmother was Margaret Salt (nee Nugent) and her mother had been Margaret Nugent (nee Murphy) b. Sept. 14th 1876 in County Wexford d. 17-8-1968 Victoria, Australia (RootsChat entry from caroline_wex gives Margaret's birth date as 15/09/1875 so I need to check this - my source is typed and handwritten family info from my mother who is no longer alive and my grandmother's birth certificate, which I do have, has Margaret Murphy as 28 in August 1905)
Margaret married William Nugent (1898 at Roman Catholic Church of Marshalltown in the Registrar's District of Enniscorthy, Co Wexford)) and they emigrated to Australia, arriving in Melbourne 1898 on a ship called the Paoline (I think, but the handwriting is not easy to read). They lived in Bairnsdale in Victoria. They had 9 girls!!! (no boys) and they had a farm!! You might think this would lead to many descendants in Australia but in fact between them all these girls only produced 9 children so my elderly aunt was recently told me. As my mother's sister she is a direct descendant.
The information I have tells me that Margaret Murphy's parents were "Ferdinand Murphy Craanrue Castledockrell Co Wexford Ireland and Mary Sinnott Clone Co Wexford Ireland".
I have also been give a list of the names of brothers and sisters and whom they married.
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Hello!
We are definitely related. Weirdly enough I was just thinking about Mrs Nugent who went to Australia after talking to another relative the other day. I was going to see if I could find any descendants over there who might be able to help with more info on the family! :o)
I'm going to send you an email through this site now and a link to what I have so far on ancestry.co.uk! Be more than delighted to share what I have here (including birth, marriage and death certs... and a couple of photos of the Murphy family)... so be talking to you soon!!!
Caroline
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New members usually need 3 posts to use PM (personal message) system.
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Hello to newly discovered relatives. Great to get a reply and so quickly!
As a newcomer to this site I will need to learn how to use it.
Is the messgae from : aghadowey "New members usually need 3 posts to use PM (personal message) system." saying that the email being sent by cal will not be able to be accessed by me until I have 3 postings? I will get back on this site again about the same time tomorrow (probably a bit earlier - that will be 3 times then - so am I then OK for PM ?? Will review the info I do have to add anything I can that may be of interest.
Cheers for now, Benji12
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My name is John Whelan formerly of Enniscorthy. Elizabeth Ralph was my grand mother, she died in1957, I believe. If you can give me an address I shall send you a list of her children names and whom they married , and most of her grand children names and addresses. Looking forward to hearing from you, I have often wondered about where she came from, any information about her and her family i shall put in my own family history. I do know that she married a second time to a Mr Tom Walsh, he died in the early 1950s.
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Hello John!
Lovely to hear from you.
I've since pretty much finished up the family tree - thank GOD! - and sent out everything on disc to members of the family... including one of your cousins, Lily! More than happy to share any information on your granny, Elizabeth, and any of her Murphy siblings. We have photos of many of them and there's a real resemblance between them! If you are on familysearch.co.uk, I could send you an invite and you can add bits from there onto your own tree from there. Could you send me your email by messaging me through my profile here, please?! Thanks!
Look forward to hearing from you.
Caroline
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Hi i'm a descendant of the same family of Nugents, Williams sister is my connection,
Some descendants of the family "William and Margaret" returned to Bunclody / Casterdockrell back in the cira 1970's to visit their ancestors i was told by a relative, Nancy was the lady that was named. i was aware that they had 9 daughters in the family.
The last named Ferdy Murphy was married to a Whelan, they had no family and the present owner Michael Whelan is a nephew of Mrs. Whelan, thats the connection.