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Hi I am looking for anyone who know the Smallwoods, My Great Grandmother was called Rose Hannah or Rosannah Smallwood and was born in or around 1872. she married John Thomas Clarke who was a Boatman on the Grand Union Canal, I'm stuck on her and cant go any further back, any help would be amazing
Many thanks
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Hi this looks like her in 1881:-
Charles Smallwood 40 occ Boatman b Birmingham
Hannah 39 b Middlewich
Emma 17 b Wolverhampton
John 13 b Ellesmere Port
ROSE 9 b Preston Bank
Alfred 6 b Ellesmere Port
Residing on stage 211 the Alpraham in Nantwich Cheshire
Census Ref RG11/3549/7/8
Keyboard86
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Hello
Rose Hannah Smallwood married John Thomas Clarke dec quarter 1888 Wolverhampton Shropshire/Staffordshire/West Midlands 6b 945
Certifcate would give age and fathers name.
Pam
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1891 Rg12/2865 folio 81 page 42 Chester Cheshire
Rook
Chas Smallwood age 53 master born Birmingham
William Robert 1st hand
William Moore 2nd hand
1891 Rg12/2372 folio 159 page 36 Birmingham Warwickshire
1 Railway Cottage Monument Road
Hannah Smallwood age 48 married living on her own means born NK
Alfred son age 17 boatman born Nk
Sabina dau age 14 Rule maker born NK
Rebecca dau age 8 born Nk
Eliza Ann dau age 5 born NK
Pam
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Hi on the 1871:-
Charles 32
Hannah 29
Emma 7
Anne Maria 5
John 1
They are at Thurlwood Lock, Odd Rode, Congleton Cheshire
Census Ref RG10/3706/88/35
Marriage Charles Smallwood to Hannah Bunce June 1861 Wolverhampton 6b 608
Keyboard86
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Hi again Charles a couple of months prior to his marriage:-
Charles Smallward Jnr 21 occ Captain b Warwickshire
Vessel Alice/Iron Trade
Port/Place Wolverhampton on the night of Sunday April 7th 1861
Census Ref RGO9/1998/74/1
Keyboard86
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In Boats
1871 Rg10/3706 folio 88 page 35 Odd Rode Cheshire
Thurlwood Lock
John Harman age 25 master
Tryphena wife age 24
John age 2
Edward age 9m
Charles Smallwood age 32 Birmingham
Hannah wife age 29 Middlewich Cheshire
Emma dau age 7 Staff Wolverhampton
Next page
Anne Maria dau age 5 Norbury Cheshire
John son age 1 Ellesmere Port
Rose Anna Smallwood christened 10th dec 1871 Halton Cheshire father Charles mother Hannah
Pam
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Oh thankyou so much Keyboard & Pam, I cannot believe how fast you guys work, thankyou so much, I will definately order the certificate tomorrow, incidentally I have just come across this site its from old parish registers that canal people registered births and marriages it might be useful to someone, I have just found out that my Grandmother had another sister who we didnt know about check out the link
http://www.canalmuseum.org.uk/collection/holtsindex2.pdf
Many thanks
Jacky
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Hi,
just an update, I found their marriage details in
http://www.canalmuseum.org.uk/collection/holtsindex1.pdf
really interesting, its the first part of the link I posted earlier,
Mother Anna/Hannah, Father Charles, brilliant thanks for all your help, now to get further back.
Again thanks
Jacky
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Hi Pam and Keyboard,
When you refer to "In Boats" and
"1871 Rg10/3706 folio 88 page 35" where does this information come from? be patient with me I am a complete beginner.
Thanks
Jacky
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The reference IN Boats was because all the families on that page were in boats on the canal at Thurlwood lock on the night of the census.
Cenus
H0107/ / 1841 year reference number and book number folio number and page number of the census details for that area
H0107/ 1851 the rest were year numbers folio numbers and page numbers for the area the census was taken in
RG9/ 1861
RG10/ 1871
RG11/ 1881
RG12/ 1891
RG13/ 1901
RG14/ 1911
So the 1871 census was taken on the night of the 2nd April
It listed all who were stayed at the address that night listed address occupation age and relationship to the head of the household where they were born sex whether they were employer or employee or niether if they were death dumb crippled imbecile. lunatic or such like.
I am a member of a paid site where I found the names 1881 is free on the familysearch.com site 1911 census is also a separate paid listing.
Regards Pam
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Thanks Pam, for that I am with Genes Reunited, I think most of the census's are free on there so will take a look.
Many thanks again, now I know what I am looking at.
Jacky
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hello
my ggrandad was also a boatman on the grand union canal @ the same time .looking at some of the birth places he might not have always been on the union canal. my tree covers 6 generations of canal boatmen. smallwood is not a name i have come across in all my years of reserch. Braunston was the main area for weddings ,baptisms & buriels, they have a cem that only has boatmen buried there.do you have any other surname that might be connected with your family as most boat familys only married into their own (other boat men) if you google butty boat alice this may be the alice mentioned on census. will continue to check other records & see if your name shows up
jeannette
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sorry forgot to mention Thurlwood Lock is on the Trent & Mersey canal. Elsmere Port is on the Manchester ship canal. Elsmere port has a large canal museum(google) with a mass of archives
for canals & boat familys you might get some info if you contact of visit them (archive reserch has to be booked)
jeannette
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Thankyou so much Jeanette for that information, I know that the Smallwoods moved around abit, and yes, half of my family tree is taken up with only boatmen, my Mother was the first to be "born on land" as my Grandmother put it for centurys. The other names in my tree are Priddy, Clarke, Clegg, Smith, Smallwood, Bunn, Leek, Harrison, some dating back to the late 1700's but I cant fill in some gaps, any help would be wonderful.
Many thanks Jeanette
Jacky
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hello jacky
i was born jeannette ann harrison & my tree goes back 6 generations of boatmen i was the first to be born on the bank ,some of the names in your tree are in mine as well. it looks as if we have a strong connection. will pm you as a lot of my relatives are still living
jeannette
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Thats great to hear Jeanette,
I will look forward to your PM, I am on Genes Reunited if you want to look at my tree, Just look for Mortimer Bunn around 1819, and Jacquelines tree should come up on the search.
Many thanks
Jacky