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Title: Irene (Nell) CRONIN nee CARRISON
Post by: multiman on Saturday 25 September 10 10:52 BST (UK)
I am tracing descendants of IRENE AUDREY Cronin nee CARRISON  born 1898, and died 1977 Age 79  in Kew.  She married CYRIL FREDERICK CRONIN 1918. 

Irene known as "Nell" had  two daughters Thelma and Iris Cronin
   i.    THELMA AUDREY CRONIN, b. 1919, Carlton; m. NEWING.
   ii.    IRIS CRONIN, m. BUCKLAND. (USA)

Nell took many 8 mm movies and I am hoping some have survived.
My connection goes back to Mary Ann Wilding.

Title: Re: Irene (Nell) CRONIN nee CARRISON
Post by: laceytreigh on Saturday 25 September 10 12:30 BST (UK)
The name CRONIN got my attention, thought I might be able to help, but Cyril Cronin doesn't ring a bell with me. My maiden name is Cronin and my forebears settled in NSW when they came out from Ireland.

Tracey.
Title: Re: Irene (Nell) CRONIN nee CARRISON
Post by: cando on Sunday 26 September 10 06:49 BST (UK)
Irene Audrey CRONIN does not appear on any electoral rolls with her husband at the same address.  Did they separate early in the marriage?  There is a Cyril Frederick CRONIN on the 1949 NSW electoral roll, but really no way of knowing if it is Irene's husband.

Marriage
CRONIN Thelma Audrey
NEWING John William
1939   Reg#12927

Australian Electoral Roll
1954
NEWING Thelma Audrey, 34 Oak  Street, Hawthorn  HD
NEWING John William, 34 Oak Street, Hawthorn  Mechanic

John's WW2 service record
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=N&VeteranID=1149903

Death
NEWING Thelma Audrey
Father Cronin Cyril   Mother Irene
At Balwyn  62 years  1981  Reg#07382

John died in Apr 1987 and both he and Thelma were cremated at Springvale and their ashes scattered.  Irene CRONIN was also cremated at Springvale and her ashes scattered.
http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php

Names of any issue of Thelma and John's marriage should be detailed on Thelma's death certificate.
Information on Victorian certificates
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

Images of certificates can be purchased online [$17.50] and immediately downloaded.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Hopefully Thelma's death certificate will give you some leads to further your search for descendants.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Irene (Nell) CRONIN nee CARRISON
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 26 September 10 08:52 BST (UK)
Hi

You may know by these further details if this is your CYRIL FREDERICK CRONIN.
His first Military record for ww1 shows he joined in 1915 aged 18 and was born in South Yarra, Melb.
His mother is Next of Kin, HETTIE JANE CRONIN. She gives written consent for him to go abroard. She has an address in Parkville

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

There is aletter dated Jan 1960, regarding Repatriation Benefits.

His second record is for ww2 and gives abirthdate 26/11/1898. His next of kin now is PHYLLIS CRONIN and he lives in Sydney NSW.

More details can be seen
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp


Sue
Title: Re: Irene (Nell) CRONIN nee CARRISON
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 26 September 10 08:56 BST (UK)
Here is the marriage of CYRIL and PHYLLIS in NSW

REG. 22883 In 1940  CRONIN,  CYRIL FREDERICK  to SUMMERS  PHYLLIS  at  SYDNEY.

Still no certainty he is the same man as married IRENE ;D.
Sue 
Title: Re: Irene (Nell) CRONIN nee CARRISON
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 26 September 10 09:15 BST (UK)
Hi
Perhaps CYRIL and PHYLLIS stayed in NSW for their lifetimes :D

From the RYERSON INDEX to Contemporary Death Notices

http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

CRONIN,   Cyril Frederick.Death notice Date   23AUG1981late of Umina, Appeared in Sydney Morning Herald on 25AUG1981


CRONIN,   Phyllis,Death notice. Date 04SEP1976 Age   68 late of Loftus, formerly of Bondi.  Appeared in Sydney Morning Herald on 06SEP1976.

Sue

Title: Re: Irene (Nell) CRONIN nee CARRISON
Post by: judb on Sunday 26 September 10 09:24 BST (UK)
1929: Divorce for Irene Audrey CRONIN age 30 Of Alexandra Pde and Cyril Frederick CRONIN, 30, motor driver, previously of Melbourne shown in NLA digitised newspapers.

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4050446?searchTerm=cyril+cronin

There are other mentions of a Cyril CRONIN who was a bit of a naughty man,  mostly in Qld but no way of knowing if it is the same chap (on looking at the chap in Qld it's possible he is too young).  A couple of Melbourne mentions also which may be him.

Judith