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Title: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Thursday 23 September 10 23:06 BST (UK)
I am hoping that someone might be able to point me in the right direction
to any photographs of Quay Street in Whitehaven, before the houses were
demolished and replaced with car parks.
I have just received the death cert of my 3x gt grandfather John Doran
being a master mariner, lived at 13 Quay Street at the time of his death
in 1872.
Any advice gratefully received.
Alyson123
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: Sharon01 on Friday 24 September 10 08:42 BST (UK)
Hi,

This site has some excellent old photos of Whitehaven, unfortunately you can not tell on all of them where they were taken but there is a contact you could ask about them.

http://www.mywhitehaven.net

Sharon
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: Geoff-E on Friday 24 September 10 09:21 BST (UK)
This site has some excellent old photos of Whitehaven, unfortunately you can not tell on all of them where they were taken but there is a contact you could ask about them.

http://www.mywhitehaven.net

I looked through those earlier ... I don't thing there's anything useful :(
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Friday 24 September 10 11:41 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help Sharon, some wonderful photos of Whitehaven,
but alas no Quay Street.
I wonder if anyone has one of the 'Whitehaven Past' books published
and if Quay Street is in there. I would'ny mind buying one if I was sure
Quay St is included.
Alyson123 
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: jeffbubble on Wednesday 13 October 10 16:17 BST (UK)
Quay St Ended just behind the notice in the centre, it had just been demolished to make way for the new garage - County Garage about 1963.
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 13 October 10 20:25 BST (UK)
That's a great picture jeffbubble!

The dockside looks cleaner than I remember it when I used to visit.

Here's a similar viewpoint from StreetView http://tinyurl.com/3xu59h9
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Wednesday 13 October 10 20:49 BST (UK)
Jeffbubble,
Thankyou so much for a wonderful picture, this is great.
Thankyou also Geoff-E for the view today.
Alyson123
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: MandieP on Friday 15 October 10 23:38 BST (UK)
Absolutely stunning photo Jeffbubble !!! Dare I ask if you've got any more?? Would love to see if you have  :) :) :)  :-X
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: jeffbubble on Sunday 17 October 10 16:27 BST (UK)
Mandy - what would you like?
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Sunday 17 October 10 17:37 BST (UK)
Jeffbubble,
Would you have any of the following locations in your collection?
St Peters Court, Peter Street
Ribton Lane or should this be Ripton?
Collage Row, Queen Street
Bardy Lane
Little Scotland Chapel Street.
Perhaps too much to ask, but you do seem to pull them out the bag!!! :)
Thanks for sharing
Alyson123
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: MandieP on Sunday 17 October 10 18:18 BST (UK)
Oooo ! What have you got? I have a fascination with old photos of Whitehaven, so anything you would like to share would be brilliant  :) 
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: jeffbubble on Monday 18 October 10 18:11 BST (UK)
How about this for now?
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: Geoff-E on Monday 18 October 10 19:07 BST (UK)
That's nice jeffbubble :)

Bransty Arch was demolished in 1927, it's before that.

Here's the modern view as close as I can get http://tinyurl.com/35jm8p7
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Monday 18 October 10 19:23 BST (UK)
This is wonderful Geffbubble!
My Grandmother worked at The Grand Hotel when she first went into
service, I have alot of pics of the Grand, but I have not seen this view
before........so brilliant!
Alyson123
p.s. There is a story in my family that my Grndmother was sacked
because she was smoking in one of the rooms and the linen caught
fire. Thankfully this was a couple of years before the actual burning
down, so sad.
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: MandieP on Monday 18 October 10 21:26 BST (UK)
Thank you very much Jeffbubble , you can see the house where I lived when I was little up on the top of the hill  :) larger terrace on the left.

I also had two aunts who worked at the Grand and were evacuated the night it burned down, I remember the family story of them turning up at my grandmothers house in the middle of the freezing night in just their night clothes.

I have a picture of them taken a couple of years earlier at the Grand Hotel, with an unidentified third woman........it would be a very small world if it were your Grandma Alison123  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Monday 18 October 10 23:18 BST (UK)
OH MY GOODNESS!
I looked at this photo, thinking how the girl on the right looked like
my Grandma, .......... I was wondering if you knew which of the ladies
were your Aunt's,......... and then I scrolled down and my heart nearly
stopped when I realised that I had potentially recognized my Grandmother
after reading the note saying 'unknown'.
Mandie P, Do you know when this photo was taken?
I just cannot believe this?!?!?
Off to find an early photo of my Grandmother to compare.
Alyson123
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Monday 18 October 10 23:36 BST (UK)
This is really making me wonder!
The hotel burnt down in 1940 as  I am sure you know, my Grandmother
was probably 14 or 15 at the time she was there, circa 1931- 1932.
Interested in your thoughts as to any resemblance????
Alyson123
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: MandieP on Tuesday 19 October 10 14:36 BST (UK)
I've been looking at these two pics on and off all day! And the more I look the more I am convincing myself that it could be the same woman!! :o
The eyes and brow are a very similar shape, and her parting is in the same place! Although the fact that one is smiling and the other isn't is what is making it harder to be sure!

As for a date, I can narrow it down, as I know that both Doris and Ellen started at the Grand straight from school and were there until it's demise. Doris (in the middle) is the older of the 2 by just short of 2 years, so she would have already been there when Ellen started. School leaving age at the time was 14.

Now, I seem to remember my Dad (Doris and Ellens younger brother) saying that the picture was taken when Ellen had just started, (possibly her first day??) and looking at how relaxed Doris in the middle looks compared with the more nervous looking younger girls either side of her, I am now wondering if it was the first day for both Ellen and the unknown girl??

Doris was born in 1919 so if she was 15/16 in this photo then I am approximating that it was taken in 1934/5? Is this too late for the unknown girl to be your Grandmother? Ellen was born in December 1920, so I can't imagine it being any sooner than 1934/5 as that would have been when she left school.

Although we do not know for a fact how old this unknown girl is, I am just assuming she is a new starter, that may be entirely wrong, so she could well be older than 14. It is sooo very hard to tell ages in some of these old pictures.

Another fact I can give you is that Doris was not very tall, I think she was about 5"1', so that would make the other girl perhaps 5"3' or 4'? Does that help in any way?

We could do with that face recognition software that they use on CSI  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: alyson123 on Tuesday 19 October 10 15:44 BST (UK)
Hi Mandie P,
My Grandma was born in 1917, so I am beginning to think now
with your additional information that the timeframe probably
does not fit, as the 'unknown' definately looks younger than your
Aunt Doris. Never the less, it is a wonderful photo that you have
shared with me as I now know at the very least what she would
have looked like in her uniform.
Thanks so much for all the information.
Kind regards
Alyson123
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: barrysh on Wednesday 29 February 12 22:51 GMT (UK)
Quay St Ended just behind the notice in the centre, it had just been demolished to make way for the new garage - County Garage about 1963.

Hi, does anyone have a photo of the Freemasons Arms in Quay Street, think it could be No 37. A relative lived there in 1920
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 01 March 12 08:12 GMT (UK)
No.37 looks about right ... you can see it clearly on the 1866 1:500 map here http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?coords=297147,518107

I don't think I've everseen a photo of it. :(

If you "do" Facebook, there are lots of old photo's of Whitehaven here http://www.facebook.com/groups/151311261559292/photos/

and a growing number here http://www.facebook.com/groups/YESTERYEARSOFWHITEHAVEN/photos/

but none of the Freemason's Arms.
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: jeffbubble on Wednesday 07 March 12 00:25 GMT (UK)
try new site Old Whitehaven on FB

Jeff.
Title: Re: Quay Street Whitehaven
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 07 March 12 08:43 GMT (UK)
Ah, so you're JW ... you might see me as Denwood. :)