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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: owenc on Thursday 23 September 10 07:51 BST (UK)
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Right i've got my family as far back as i could now i'm going to do the other side. Edit: Can someone please find the birth place and birthdate of John Henry who died in 1861 and was the father of Samuel Henry baptised in garvagh 1st presbyterian church in 19th june 1841? Thanks. Heres their will it looked like they lived in culdany which is apparently outside kilrea which i doubt is in aghadowey. http://www.rootschat.com/links/09uj/
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The townland is Culnady and it is in Maghera Parish.
Samuel Henry (bapt.1841) was the 7th child of John Henry of Movenis and his wife Elizabeth. John Henry was born c1806 and Elizabeth c1808- they married in 1826.
There are also these record from PRONI site:
** The Will of John Henry late of Culnady County Londonderry Grocer deceased who died 9 July 1870 at same place was proved at Londonderry by the oaths of Elizabeth Henry (Widow) of Culnady John Wilson (Grocer) of Ballymacelcur (Maghera) and Hugh Ballagh (Farmer) of Gortade all in (Maghera) said County the Executors.
*** The Will (with one Codicil) of John Henry late of Culnady County Londonderry Farmer deceased who died 4 September 1868 at same place was proved at Londonderry by the oath of Robert Riddle of Drummuck (Maghera) in said County Farmer one of the Executors.
***The Will (with one Codicil) of John Henry late of Culnady County Londonderry Farmer deceased who died 4 September 1868 at same place was proved at Londonderry by the oath of Robert Henry of Stewartstown County Tyrone Woollen Draper one of the Executors. (Double Probate. Former Grant District Registry Londonderry 21 October 1871 folio 550.)
Unless you know that the Henrys of Culnady are originally from Movenis and the same as the family of John and Elizabeth it would not be wise to assume they are connected.
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Well i just guessed that they were from there going by his death date and his wife. But now i'm thinking they are from macoquin because in the griffiths evaluation there is a samuel henry in a house in macosquin with john henry as the landlord and samuel henry marries rachel taylor in 9th november 1865 in macosquin presyterian church aswell.
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Those deaths don't match up with his death date which was 26th august 1861
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Well i just guessed that they were from there going by his death date and his wife. But now i'm thinking they are from macoquin because in the griffiths evaluation there is a samuel henry in a house in macosquin with john henry as the landlord and samuel henry marries rachel taylor in 9th november 1865 in macosquin presyterian church aswell.
There are numerous Henry families in the area and many of them are named John. As with any research you will need to work back step-by-step with facts and not make any assumptions.
How far back can you trace your Henry connection (without making guesses but with sources like certificates or census records)?
Those deaths don't match up with his death date which was 26th august 1861
Where did this death date come from? I included the various John Henry of Culbady Wills to show that there were quite a few in Culbady around the same time.
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Well i can get it back as far as his death, no further i don't know his birthdate or marriage date and i know his wife was elizabeth. I got it from someone else who was using ancestry.com
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How far back can you trace your Henry connection (without making guesses but with sources like certificates or census records)?
No, what I asked is how far back can you trace your family. Ancestry, as well as other online sites, contain many incorrect family trees/information and you need to do your own research.
Exactly where did your Henrys live?
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What do you mean? I'll have a shot at this. The furthest officually i can get back is the birth of samuel henry on the 19th may 1841 baptised in garvagh 1st presbyterian church on 10th june 1841 and his parents are john and elizabeth, and i don't know where they lived because there are so many i think they lived in macosquin because samuel has a house there and he married there to rachel taylor in macosquin presbyterian church on 9th november 1865.
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But how can you get back to Samuel Henry bapt. 1841 in 1st Garvagh? You've so far this morning tried to connect Samuel and his father John Henry to Henrys of Culnady (roughly south of Garvagh) and now Henrys of Macosquin which is north of Garvagh.
Have you found any of your Henrys in 1901 and 1911 census? If so, what townland are they in?
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But how can you get back to Samuel Henry bapt. 1841 in 1st Garvagh? You've so far this morning tried to connect Samuel and his father John Henry to Henrys of Culnady (roughly south of Garvagh) and now Henrys of Macosquin which is north of Garvagh.
Have you found any of your Henrys in 1901 and 1911 census? If so, what townland are they in?
They aren't in it but i know they lived outside garvagh to the north. I got his baptisim on emerald ancestors and i'm not connecting them to macosquin they are from there, and then i am connecting him to culnady through his death registered on the proni wills.
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You still aren't answering the questions I've asked and I don't know how much plainer I can make this.
Have you found any of your family in 1901 and 1911 census? If so, what townland are they living in?
If you are descended from Samuel Henry and Rachel Taylor- which child is your ancestor? They had at least 8 children born 1866-1879,
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You still aren't answering the questions I've asked and I don't know how much plainer I can make this.
Have you found any of your family in 1901 and 1911 census? If so, what townland are they living in?
If you are descended from Samuel Henry and Rachel Taylor- which child is your ancestor? They had at least 8 children born 1866-1879,
Its hugh henry, who the heck are the eight children am i related to the other henrys! :o I thought they only had two. Why do you want to know this anyway as i have gotten back to samuel and he married a rachel in macosquin were he lived and i want to get back to his parents birth etc.
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Samuel Henry that married Rachel Taylor is listed in 1901 census under Balinteer South which is Macosquin-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Bannbrook/Ballinteer_South/1517312
They had a son Hugh Henry born 24 Feb.1874 - is this the one you mean?
There was also a Hugh Moore Henry of Ballyvennox, son of a John Henry.
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Samuel Henry that married Rachel Taylor is listed in 1901 census under Balinteer South which is Macosquin-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Bannbrook/Ballinteer_South/1517312
They had a son Hugh Henry born 24 Feb.1874 - is this the one you mean?
There was also a Hugh Moore Henry of Ballyvennox, son of a John Henry.
Blimey was he, i thought he was dead. Thanks. Yep thats the one i've got written down. Blimey they just lived down the road from my own family! Blimey! lol Now can we please go back to samuel henry's fathers birth and were he lived?
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Just before we work out john. Where would he be buried and when did he die, as i never checked dunboe as my own family are in there.
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Did you get back to it?
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ok can somebody else help me with this then.
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Eight children of Samuel Henry and Rachel Taylor baptised Macosquin Presbyterian Church 1866-1879. See box #19 of church microfilms at Coleraine Library.
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Eight children of Samuel Henry and Rachel Taylor baptised Macosquin Presbyterian Church 1866-1879. See box #19 of church microfilms at Coleraine Library.
I found out who they are, i forget about them ones lol. Thanks, but that wasn't what i was looking for i was trying to find out the birth and birth place of john henry samuel henrys father, can we do that or is that possible even lol?