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Title: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: GMac on Wednesday 22 September 10 16:01 BST (UK)
Hello again,
                   Great grandfather Hector Mackenzie (Mellon Udrigle) married
Catherine Chisholm (Ormiscaig) on 4th march 1836.

Found this on Scotlands people.

 From several census years it appears Hector was born about 1805 and Catherine about 1810, the census years have also given me some information
on Hector and Catherine's children.

I am looking for help with any information on Hector or Catherine's parents or
family.
                    Cheers GMac
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 22 September 10 16:20 BST (UK)
Hi

If they died after 1855, their death certs  with their parents names will be on the Scotland's People site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk. It's pay to view but very reasonable.


Gadget
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: GMac on Friday 24 September 10 14:20 BST (UK)
Hi Gadget,
                 Thank you, I did'nt realise I would get that information from the death cert. I have had success from Scotlands People before so will try again.
I would assume that Catherine's death would be under her married name and not her M.S.
                            GMac
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 September 10 14:38 BST (UK)
Hi

Usually it's under both.

If you have any problems, give a shout.


Gadget
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: amh155 on Wednesday 03 July 13 08:52 BST (UK)
Hi GMac,

Did you have any luck with Hector & Catherine? I'm slowly putting together some trees about the Chisholms from Gairloch and am working on this couple at the moment. Catherine died 1900 at Opinan age 90. I have more details about Catherine's parents and grandparents if you need them.

Hoping to hear from you,

Ann
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: amh155 on Wednesday 03 July 13 09:58 BST (UK)
Hello again,

I just found John on the 1851 census age 4, with his parents and siblings, listed as Mckinzie, so that may narrow his date of birth for you.

Cheers,  AMH
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: GMac on Friday 05 July 13 08:22 BST (UK)
Hi Ann,
           Thank you for the reply, yes I did have some luck with Catherine's death Cert. it had her as Kate with parents Roderick Chisholm and Christy Macgregor, I can't be sure but it appears she was the eldest of 6 children.
I also had some luck with Hectors death Cert. ,Scotlands people again, his death was in Opinan on the 6th December 1886 aged 91 with parents Louis McKenzie and Annabella ms McKenzie.
Thanks again Ann it was nice to get the message

       GMac
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: amh155 on Friday 05 July 13 13:14 BST (UK)
Hi GMac,

I'm pleased you had success. It's not easy with so many names the same.
Do you need Roderick's and Christy's death details and parents? I must have missed one of Catherine's siblings, as I have,

Margaret m Rod McIver
Duncan m Elspet McKenzie
John m Jo(hannah) McKenzie
Donald m Ann McIver

Cheers,

Ann
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: GMac on Sunday 07 July 13 06:19 BST (UK)
Hi Ann,
           No you haven't missed anyone, checking my records I also only have 5 siblings listed.
I also have a connection to Margaret, she is my Great, Great Grandmother from the Maciver side.
Thanks again Ann.
                                  GMac
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: amh155 on Tuesday 09 July 13 09:45 BST (UK)
Hello again GMac,

I have just found a very comprehensive tree on Ancestry for Christina Chisholm & Kenneth Urquhart, proving she is another daughter to Roderick Chisholm & Christy McGregor. The owner is knightgk, and the children agree with what I found from the records of BDM, and shipping, there are even photos of Christina & Kenneth, really fantastic info.

Happy hunting, so many families go in circles if we dig sideways!!

cheers,

Ann
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: Tillymannoch on Saturday 25 February 17 16:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have Murdo MacKenzie, aged 48, and his wife Elisabeth, aged 44, at Ormiscaig in the 1861 census.  They had a son Hector, so I wonder if  my Murdo was a brother of your Hector?

Elisabeth died at Balnaluib in 1910. (She is named Eliza on her death cert) predeceased by her husband.  Murdo also appears elsewhere as Murdoch.  According to her death cert her parents were Murdo MacLeod and Mary MacKenzie.

Best,

Alison
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: GMac on Wednesday 01 March 17 06:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison, 
Thank you for the Post
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: Tillymannoch on Wednesday 01 March 17 08:54 GMT (UK)
I am really struggling with Murdoch / Murdo MacKenzie.  The family were at Ormiscaig in both 1861 and 1871.   He is described as "Murdo MacKenzie,  48,  Crofter of 4 ˝ acres,  born Gairloch"  in 1861 and as  "Murdoch McKenzie,  60,  Crofter,  born Mellon Charles" in 1871.

His wife (Elisabeth, aged 44, in 1861 and Elizabeth, aged 50, in 1871) is more straightforward - she was baptised Elispet on 18 July 1821, parents Murdo McLeod and Mary MacKenzie, Mellon Udrigle.  She died (name given as Eliza) 16 June 1910, aged 88, at Balnaluib, widow of Murdo MacKenzie, crofter, parents Murdo McLeod, crofter and Mary MacKenzie. 

Murdo / Murdoch MacKenzie and Elispet/ Elisabeth / Elizabeth / Eliza McLeod had seven children,  all born in the parish of Gairloch.  Two, Hector and Isabella (Bella)  went to Glasgow, married and raised families there.  A third, Murdo / Murdoch was the informant on his mother's death certificate.

I cannot find them on the 1841 or 1851 census returns, under any combination of names, and I would be very grateful to know if anyone else researching MacKenzies in this area  had come across this family. 
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: GMac on Wednesday 01 March 17 10:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Alison,
              I will try again, there was more to the last post that I sent you but it didn't go through, i'm not very good at this but will try again.
My family of McKenzie all seem to have been born in the Mellon Udrigle and Opinan (Obinen) area  Great Grandfather Hector looks to have been the eldest, born around 1795 his parents were Louis and Annabella M.S McKenzie, there was a son Murdo but he was born about 1825, my connection to Ormiscaig is Hectors wife Catherine Chisholm.
Sorry I can't be more help Alison, but don't give up keep posting the people on Roots Chat are great I would not have got anywhere without their help.      All the best GMac
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: Tillymannoch on Wednesday 01 March 17 10:38 GMT (UK)
Thank you!  One fact I missed out from my previous post was that, according to their son William's birth certificate in 1863, Murdo / Murdoch  and Elizabeth were married in Feb 1849, in Poolewe.  Murdo was illiterate, he signed the birth certificate with a cross.

William's birthplace looks like New Ormiscaig, but might also be Near Ormiscaig.
Title: Re: Mackenzie / Chisholm
Post by: Tillymannoch on Wednesday 01 March 17 10:50 GMT (UK)
I've just rechecked and have their marriage:

Jan 6 1849 - Murdo McKenzie in Mellon Udrigill and Eliza McLeod in Altantarsin.