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Please help! - Birth look-up desperately needed to establish right connection.
Edward Bevan
b: March 1841
Place: Bedwellty Pits, Tredegar, Monmouthshire.
Father's name: Thomas Bevan - Collier
Residence at time of Edward's marriage is Victoria and he married a Margaret Edwards in 1866 in Tredegar Chapel.
I would like to order the certificate but I need the date or at least the GRO index number - so if anyone can help, then many thanks in advance.
Thanks again
Gaynor
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Marriage reg Freebmd
Sept qtr 1866
Bedwellty
Mon
11a 153
on same page
Edward bevan
margaret Edwards
Suz
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Many thanks for your help!
However it is the birth certificate I require, as I already have his marriage cert - didn't really make myself very clear did I.
Thanks again
Gaynor
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Oops -apologies -you did make yourself clear - I didn't read your post correctly
Will see what I can find now!!
Bearing in mind there may not be a certificate as not all registered at that time
Suz
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Edward is on the 1851 census aged 10 with parents Thomas & Sarah, but there's no sign of the family in 1841. Births in Bedwellty at that time would show as registered in Abergavenny. There is no registration showing up for an Edward Bevan in that district.
Where did you get the date of March 1841 from? If he was born then, he should be on the 1841 census as it was in June.
There is the possibilty that he was born before his parents' marriage & is registered under his mother's maiden name. Or he just wasn't registered at all.
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I have Edward's marriage cert and it states his age is 25years, so that is how I came to the year, however can't remember how I established March, the only conclusion I can come up with is might have came across it on Ancestory - I am not registered at the moment, so can't double check.
The address on the marriage cert is Victoria and the marriage took place at Tredegar Chapel on 18 August 1866, I also have the 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 Census records for Edward.
1851 - Place of birth - Monmouth
1861 - N R - not sure what this means (he was away working)
1871 - Place of birth - Sirhowy
1881 - Place of birth - Sirhowy
1891 - Place of birth - Tredegar
1901 - Place of birth - Breconshire, ???bridge
Any help is appreciated!
Enjoy your day
Gaynor
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1861 his p.o.b. is (I think) NK-not NR - meaning not known
Suz
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this could be Thomas with his family in 1841
Penmark, Hamlet of Manmoel HO107/750/10 folio 16 pg 24
David Bevan 61 iron miner N
Mary 55 N
Thomas 25 Y
William 15 Y
David 12 Y
N= not born in county, Y= born in county
You could email the registrars to see if they can trace a birth registration or marriage that fits
registrarsatblaenau-gwent.gov.uk
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Edward's birth reg is
1841 Newport JFM qtr 26 106
His parents are Thomas Bevan (collier) and Sarah Arthur.
Thomas married Sarah 6th May 1842 (Thomas was full age and Sarah was a minor I have the marriage certificate) therefore Edward was born before Thomas and Sarah were married.
Incidentally Thomas's father is also a Thomas Bevan on their marriage cert occ. Miner( which could be of either iron/coal.)
Best wishes
Annie
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Edward's place of birth in 1901 is Sennybridge yet on the 1911 his place of birth is Ebbw Vale. All confusing the issue here.
However his year of birth on the 1911 is 1840 and his age is 71. He is still living with Margaret and adopted son Brinley Bevan ( Williams) at 9 River Row, Tredegar.
Best wishes
Annie
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Hi Annie,
I orginally thought that Thomas was married to a Sarah Arthur but on their record on the LDS website it states that Thomas died in 1848 and we know that he didn't because we have him on the 1881 Census in Himalaya Range, also on some of the census records for the them it also states that Thomas died before 1848, so after checking and checking I now know that it wasn't Sarah Arthur - in total I think I have found about 4 marriages and the most likely is to a Sarah Lewis but not 100% yet thats why I am trying to get Edward's Birth Cert to find out his mothers name.
I have Edward's mrge cert to Margaret and it states a Thomas as his father, and I also wanted to check that the Thomas in Himalaya Range in 1881 is 100% correct. I have traced Thomas back to 1851 Census and the family are in Victoria a place just near Tredegar and some of the children around that time have Victoria as their place of birth, so it looks like I might be on the right track, just need to find out Edward's mothers name to be 100%.
Let me know how you get on
Gaynor
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Thanks for the 1901 and 1911 information - great stuff!!!
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Hi again Gaynor
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/b.gardner/tredegar/census1881.htm.
Try this website . This site gives you a comprehensive list of all the occupants of Himalaya Range in 1881. It's now known as Troedrhiwgwair.
You will see that Edward is living at No.30 his brother David c1844 lives at No. 29 and their parents Thomas and Sarah at No.27. My great grandfather Daniel ( brother to Edward and David) is a 19yr old living with his parents Thomas and Sarah as is his sister Mary.
Daniel married in 1883 and his father Thomas is noted as deceased on his marriage certificate although it gives Thomas's occupation as Foreman in Mine works as does 1881 census RG11/5244. I can email you the census link via Ancestry if you'd like.
Best wishes
Annie
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Thanks Annie,
I have already the 1881 Census and that's how I came up with the idea that Edward & David may have a father, Thomas just a few doors away, but I didn't realise your connection - so now I do!!!Many thanks!!
I working on all names at the moment, so when I get some further information regarding Edward's birth cert, then I can let you know - the connection for Thomas to be Edwards and David's father is nearly concrete, just want to find out the mother's name to be sure.
Finally, I have already put a message on the Tredegar Forum, I use it a lot -its under the same username stanley1, haven't had many replies yet though. Rootschat is much better!! I don't think anyone from Tredegar reads the site! But with ref to the 1881 Census I already have it, so thanks for that!
Gaynor