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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Westmeath => Topic started by: cyril walsh on Monday 20 September 10 10:58 BST (UK)
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i am looking for info on an anne deegan born 1863 and married a thomas adamson from moate.
thomas was a shoemaker, they are on the 1901 census but not on the 1911 census.
thomas seems to have had a few brothers also shoemakers, none of these are in the 1911 census either. were they omitted or did they emigrate.
any help in solving this puzzle would be really appreciated.
cyril
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Hello Cyril (slightly off topic) - My ggrandfather was Joseph Adamson a shoemaker from Moate, Westmeath so there is likely a connection. I'm fairly new to genealogy but I'd be happy to share my information with you. I'm new to this site as well so still finding my way around - Kevin
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hello again kevin
i was on Genes Reunited for a while, but to be honest i didnt think a whole lot of it.
i think this is a great site, i found more cousins on this site than any where else.
have you met any of the adamsons from moate, it seems there are two seperate adamson familys.
i am living in kildare but i was born in mayo near ballinrobe.
francis adamsons parents were thomas and anne nee deegan.
looking forward to hearing from you soon
best wishes
cyril
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US Passport applications-1795-1925
Thomas Adamson; b. 30/9/1882 ,Moate;
father; Christie
Emigrated; 13/10/1901
Resided for 21 years in New Haven; 1901-1922
Reason of visit back to Ireland; To visit father.
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Jack
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Ellis Island; 1892-1924
Thomas Adamson-Moate
Arrival; 1902;
Age; 21, single
Dept; Southampton
Ship; St Paul
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Thomas Adamson-Moate
Arrival; 1895
Age; 21
Dept; Queenstown
Ship; Teutonic
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Jack
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hello jack
thank you so much for your reply, that thomas would be francis adamsons first cousin.
i think the adamsons were omitted from the 1911 census as i cannot find any of them .
6 or 7 families all missing, any idea how i could find out why they are missing.
best wishes
cyril
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1901 Eng cen; Berkshire-New Winsor-Dist 7
Adamson Eliza J; 49, Westmeath
Frederick W;son; 34, estate agent clerk. London Fitzroy sq.
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Canada Ocean Arrivals; 1919-1924
Adamson Joseph; 25. b. Moate, single.
Arrival; 1924 St John Brunswick.
Dept; Moate
Ship; Montlaurie
Money in pocket; £20
Destined to meet; Mr Rourke
Possible occup; Farming
Father; Joseph Adamson
Booking agent; John Lowe-Moate.
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(as above)
Adamson Anthony; 21, single, Tailor, Moate
Pocket money; £30
Date of sailing; 12/10/1923
Relative in Moate; James (bro), Church st Moate.
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UK & US Directories; 1680-1830
Adamson Christopher; 1826-1850
Moate, Ballinalack.
Source date; 1837
Uk & US Directories;
Adamson William Gustavis; 1836-1850
Cairn Park Westmeath
Source; 1837
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Ontario Canada Deaths; 1869-1936 & Overseas 1939-1947
Adamson George; Clerk
d. 3/5/1877 (69) Lambton
b. Balinalark Westmeath
Church of England
died of; General disability.
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Jack
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hello again jack.
your amine of information, some of these are definitely my relatives.
one thing i have noticed about the adamson men is they all seemed to be shoe makers.
the one i really would love to find is my granddad francis adamson.
born 1898 in moategranoge, i know very little about him.
i know he was in the irish army he left it in 1926, married my grandmother anne nolan in 1924.
and thats about it, any info that you could find i would relly appreciate it.
thank you very much for your kind help, i really appreciate it.
best wishes as always
cyril
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This is totally off looking for Francis - but it shows Adamsons were in Moate a long time back and lead interesting lives!
A reward for the arrest of William Kennedy of Birr
Faulkners Dublin Journal 5th January 1754
On the 16th Nov. last Wm. Kennedy son of Widow Kennedy, Birr with about 10 men, broke open the house of Wm. Adamson, Balnalack, near Moate, Co. Westmeath, in the dead time of the night, with intent to carry away forcibly, Mrs. Anne Barlow, whoever secures said Wm. Kennedy, so that he be brought to justice shall receive 15 guinea reward from the said Mrs. Barlow.
Griffiths 1854 in Moate
Adamson Elizabeth Ardnaponra Kilmanaghan
Adamson Richard Kilnahinch Kilmanaghan
Adamson Richard Legan Kilmanaghan
Adamson Richard Moate Newtown Kilmanaghan
Adamson Sophia Ardnaponra Kilmanaghan
At the other end of things, they are still Adamsons in Moate:http://www.rip.ie/death_notices_detail.asp?NoticeID=115097
Other people looking:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/adamson/messages/844.html
http://www.jenforum.com/adamson/messages/856.html
Of course all of thse may not be relevant- seem to relate to a wealthy C of I family, but I have come accross situations where a younger son marries an RC wife,and gradually changes into trade - and it is not a frequent name. Pm
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hello pastmagic
thanks for that, i see you have walshs from westmeath, i have just discovered i have walshs from westmeath also.
they were from the islands on lough ree.
best wishes
cyril
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Hi Cyril, Mine were from Balinea, just outside Mullingar. Do you have any more details of yours, as I have some stray BMD's I picked up during the years.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/environment-geography/physical-landscape/lakelands-of-westmeath/lough-ree/islands-of-lough-ree/inchmore/island-life/
Mentions that several generations of Walshes (with an e) lived on the Islands
http://www.iwai.ie/events/Lough_Ree_and_Its_Islands.html
Is a lovely publication by the Inland Waterways on the Islands.
You might find this interesting:
http://www.from-ireland.net/books/west/placenames.htm
The Ordnance Survey Letters referring to the County of Westmeath edited by
Rev. Paul Walshe, M.A. )(Another Westmeath man from Ballinea)
Its the bit about the Islands on Lough Ree, which might be useful to you.
PM
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Hello Cyril
Saw your posts of 2010. Did you find the family of Francis Adamson? I came across a tree on Ancestry with his family-it contains photographs.
I am looking for the family of Anne Adamson born about 1800 Moate Westmeath married to Dennis Leape also of Moate.
Regards Heather
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Ellis Island; 1892-1924
Thomas Adamson-Moate
Arrival; 1902;
Age; 21, single
Dept; Southampton
Ship; St Paul
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Thomas Adamson-Moate
Arrival; 1895
Age; 21
Dept; Queenstown
Ship; Teutonic
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Jack
I'm trying to find out more about Thomas Adamson I believe I may be related to him great grandson trying to gather information for family
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Welcome to RootsChat Tony
A lot more records are online since this thread was started.
Have you got any idea of dates for your Thomas Adamson and a bit more information about him would help. Did he emigrate, who/when did he marry, die etc?
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Welcome to RootsChat Tony
A lot more records are online since this thread was started.
Have you got any idea of dates for your Thomas Adamson and a bit more information about him would help. Did he emigrate, who/when did he marry, die etc?
he came from Ireland 1902 around that time went to live in America Thomas venum Adamson son of Christie Adamson had children Helen Ruth Adamson and daughter Virginia Adamson dont got record of death
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This Thomas I assume
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Moate/Moategranoge/1775536/
Have you got Thomas going through Ellis Island?
Does he ever give Moate as his birth place?
Does he give an occupation for his father on his marriage?
There is a Christopher and Catherine having children in Moate but his occupation is shoemaker, I guess it's possible he may have had to give up shoemaking by the time of the 1901 Census.
I fairly sure all the births have the mark of the parent which would fit with Christopher and Catherine being unable to read and write in 1901. It doesn't in this case appear to be intimation on the part of the registrar as others have signed.
The birth year of the son Christopher doesn't fit age wise with 1901 but that in itself is not unusual.
The links below are from https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ a free safe government site but you must prove your not a robot and sign in.
The children to Christopher Adamson, Shoemaker and Catherine Sheeran (various spellings) are
Anne 1864
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03625/2338131.pdf
Image on online yet but there is a death of an Anne aged 0 in 1864
Anne 1865
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03561/2311324.pdf
Catherine 1870
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03358/2231027.pdf
Christopher 1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03259/2194292.pdf
John 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03112/2141109.pdf
Image on online yet but there is a death of a John 1875 aged 0
Joseph 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02996/2097980.pdf
John 1880
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02860/2047877.pdf
Thomas 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02758/2013044.pdf
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Something very odd going on with Moategranoge from one census to the next
1901 lists 134 households
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Westmeath/Moate/Moategranoge/
1911 lists 5
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Westmeath/Moate/Moategranoge/
needs looking into
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Moate town is one of the missing from the 1911 Census
https://www.johngrenham.com/blog/2017/02/13/the-strange-afterlife-of-the-census-microfilms/
but thanks to John Grenham it can be found
Christopher the shoemaker is back
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003525365/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003525366/
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I can see Thomas on the Saint Paul in Sept 1902 with a last residence of Moate. His name is struck through so likely he is the same Thomas on the Saxonia in Oct 1902 with a very badly damaged manifest but you can just make out the Moat of Moate.
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i am looking for info on an anne deegan born 1863 and married a thomas adamson from moate.
thomas was a shoemaker, they are on the 1901 census but not on the 1911 census.
thomas seems to have had a few brothers also shoemakers, none of these are in the 1911 census either. were they omitted or did they emigrate.
any help in solving this puzzle would be really appreciated.
cyril
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