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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: houston on Monday 20 September 10 02:16 BST (UK)
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Hi there
Tracing ancestors, I am looking for the parents of Joseph Gillham b. Abt 1769 Eastling Kent D. 1842 - Married Francis Cleverly 13/10/1793 Eastling Kent
I have tried familysearch but no luck
Any Help would be appreciated
Regards
Houston.
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Hi Houston, :)
What info do you have to suggest Joseph was actually born in Eastling?
It might pay you to ask someone to check out the PR,s for near by villages .
CHILHAM has a Thomas and Susannah Gilham there having children Christened in your time frame.
CHARING another nearby village has John and Ann Gilham who are also christening children in the same time frame.
I note the family were working at Little Winfield Farm,Stalisfield on the 41 census.
As the family were of Ag Lab stock they would likely have moved arround locally for work.
Good Luck with your Quest . Roger :D ;D
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Hi Grandarog
Thank you for your response. The source was from a direct line through Charles Gillham b. 1812 Stallisfield son of Joseph. There is a Family group record of Joseph Gillham and Francis Cleverly stating birth, death, Buried and Marriage dates including children but just havent been able to find Joseph's parents. Yes I believe Ag Labourers did move around.
I have noticed that Thomas you mention but is not one of the children though could be an Uncle or cousin - will keep it on hand.
Parish Records request may be next move.
Thanks
houston
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Hi Houston,
As an after thought ,there are 6 people on Genes Reunited laying claim to your Joseph Gilham in their family trees .
Only one of them claiming Charles Gilham 1812 with one L and two with Charles Gillham 1812 with two L,s .
You might like to contact them see if they one of them can help.
Roger
Ps: all spell Joseph Gilham with only one L.
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Thank you Roger
Hmmm maybe some relatives then
Not a member of Genes Re United but may pay to become one
Yes I have noticed that names get changed as they go along perhaps due to the transcribers trying to decipher old records and phonetic spelling - pays to be open minded I think
Thanks again Roger
Best Wishes
houston
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Also if you go into the new pilot record search from the IGI and put Eastling in the location box you will see there is no Joseph Gilham born there.
Lis
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Hi lisingreece
The plot thickens. My printout of the Family Group Record from LDs says Born Abt 1769 Eastling Kent so maybe the difference is definitely that my Gillham has the 2 'L's and not one.
I will look at your site suggestion
thanks for that
Regards
houston
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Hi Houston
I would suggest that the "born about" signifies that they don't really know unlike other dates which are actually given. It might be helpful to know who the witnesses to his marriage were, likewise if there is any residence etc. given on his marriage.
Casalguidi :)
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As you may have discovered, there is a secluded Gilham's Cottage near Wingfield Farm, which lies partly in Eastling and partly in Stalisfield. More generally, could I suggest you have a look at the Faversham website www.faversham.org. and see what is on offer.
Yasmar49
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In Charing there is a Joseph Gilham born to John & Ann 8/7/1769 and c 23/7/1769
Charing is not too far from Eastling !!
Lis
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The IGI has John Gillham marrying Ann Tanton in Charing 23/9/1758
I have to say this needs checking as my Charing records do not have this marriage.
I will be in Canterbury next week and will check this for you
Lis
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:)Thats the Family in Charing refered to in my previous post.
There were still Gilhams in Stalisfield when I lived there back in the 1960,s. I think one family worked for Vants Farm in the village and the other worked at Corner House Wingfield Cattle Farm. I dont know how the name was spelt.
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yes sorry Grandarog I forgot that.
Looking at the pilot record search, John Gillham marries Ann Tanton in Lenham 26/9/1759
and it also has the Charing marriage
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Good Morning all or should I say Good Evening to you.
Lisingreece, I am way down here in New Zealand so to think you would go to Canterbury and check it out is wonderful. Must be wonderful to be so handy to all these ancient places. I did see the Ann Tanton marriage but there was a couple of others and thats what confused me. I will look forward to your findings.
Yasamar49. I was so interested in the Gilham Cottage that you mentioned and will tuck that piece of information away also.
Grandarpog. The fact that Gilhams still lived in the area back in the '60's will blow away the relatives down here if they are our lot. The older generation have all died away now- along with the old stories about the old country and who was who - with my mother being the last which prompted me to go into this genealogy venture for the next generations down here
There seems to be so many Gilhams even going back to France. If I can link them how wonderful that would be
I do so much appreciate your help and guidance in this quest.
Regards
houston
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Hi Lisingreece,
Parents of Joseph Gillham
Refering to your post on 21 Sept. re GILLHAM Joseph you were going into Canterbury and were going to check the record of the marriage John Gilham and Ann Tanton see your posts.
I wondered what you found as I am still not sure which marriage to take.
Look forward to your response.
houston.
P.S also I notice there is an open folder on the main posts screen alongside my post and on some I see red or yellow exclamation marks and I wonder if what they are for and is there something I should be doing.
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Hi Houston ,
Dont worry you arent doing anything wrong ,the open folder means it is a topic you are posting in.
If you scroll to thr bottom of the topic list page there is are key diagrams of what all the different folder symbols indicate . Eg Hot,Locked,Normal etc.
Regards Rog
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Hi Rog
Thanks for that - what is the lock and unlocked for then?
Joined Genes Reunited but so far no luck with the Gillham contacts - maybe they have hit a brick wall also.
Keep on searching I guess.
Must say I did notice an improvment over the last couple of months of the website - looked tidier somehow or maybe it was just me
Cheers
Marion
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Hi Houston
And I was in Canterbury to day and forgot about the Gilham marriage, but am in again Wed so will check then. I just need reminding, getting long in the tooth!!
Don't worry I will remember
Lis
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Hi Lis,
Dont worry about tooth length ,Maids of Kent are young for ever. (Even when in Greece)
PS:- Marion you now have a Hot Topic Folder icon by your post as more than 15 posts.
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Hi Roger,
Flattery will get you everywhere - a bit long in the tooth myself but being descended from the Kentish I will take that compliment as well.
Oh thank you for the Hot Topic icon. Wasn't complaining just couldn't find anywhere on the site that explained the icons at the time.
Cheers
houston
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Well I have our answer, the marriage is not in Charing PRs but in Lenham.
Joseph Gilham of Charing! m Ann Tanton, by Banns both signed with a cross, witnesses John Drewry and William Drewry Sept 1758
So this means he is the Joe Gilham of Charing!!
Lis
PS I'll be in Canterbury next week as well, so if there are villages not covered by the new record search I can check anything again.
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Whoops!! mistake!!
Its John Gilham of Charing who marries Ann Tanton
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Hi Lis, :)
Thats the John and Ann that I reckon are the main subject Joseph Gilhams parents . He may well have been born at born at Eastling and he was then Christened at Charing ,where his parents were probably atttending church and knew the Parson who had married them.
Regards Rog.