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Title: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Rosslyn on Sunday 19 September 10 06:45 BST (UK)
Hi All

I am looking for information on John COOGAN and Sarah LALOR.
I have been told they married in Raheen, Co Laoise in 1879.
John was born in 1845 in Castletown, his father was James Coogan, his mother Margaret FITZPATRICK.
Sarah was born in 1855 in Raheen, her father either Patrick or Thomas LALOR, her mother either Mary FIZTPATRICK OR Mary DUNNE.

They had the following children - all born in Rosskelton
John 4 Jun 1880
Mary
Joseph 10 Apr 1884
Nannie
Matthew
Sarah
Thmoas
Patrick
Denis 1 Jun 1887

Can anyone give me more information, especially on Sarah Lalor and her parents. Any information is very much appreciated.
Thank you.
Ros
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 19 September 10 08:30 BST (UK)
Here's the family in the 1901 & 1911 censuses:

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Raheen/Parkavilla/1642367/

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Raheen/Parkavilla/782979/
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Rosslyn on Sunday 19 September 10 08:50 BST (UK)
Hi Elwyn

Thanks for the links, I had seen the census returns, unfortunately they don't give me Sarah's parents...
I appreciate your message.

Thanks again

Ros
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 September 10 09:08 BST (UK)
The marriage certificate should list Sarah's father's name and occupation as well as her residence (townland) at the time of the marriage.
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Rosslyn on Sunday 19 September 10 10:26 BST (UK)
Hi Aghadowey

Thanks for your comment. I wondered if they had marriage certificates in the 1870's. I did phone the Priest some years ago but unfortunately he wasn't interested in helping.

I will send away for a marriage certificate - I guess to Dublin?

Thanks again

Ros
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 September 10 10:32 BST (UK)
Civil registration of Catholic marriages started in 1864 (from 1845 for other marriages). See Introduction to Irish Records for links on ordering certificates from GRO, Roscommon-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Rosslyn on Sunday 19 September 10 11:21 BST (UK)
Thanks Aghadowey

I will give that a go.

Thanks again
Ros
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: jc33a on Saturday 10 December 11 13:37 GMT (UK)
An Ancestry.com tree has Sarah's parents as "Patrick Lalor and Mary Fitxpatrick". The new cheiftain of the Lalor Clan, Margot Coogan, states in yher Christmas message that she is descended from Joseph Coogam whose mother was Sarah Lalor, who was descended from the Lalors of Tenakill. It sounds like the same family.
John
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Jack2227 on Monday 12 December 11 19:28 GMT (UK)
Below are Laois County Council cemetery records from Raheen for the years 1939-2001
The records are photocopies, and are of a very poor quality.

Joseph Lalor; farmer, Parkvilla 22/3/1940

Thomas Lalor; 62, Clonkeen, 11/4/1940

Lalor ? Parkvilla; 5/11/1946

Mrs Lalor; farmer, Clonkeen; 25/12/1956

Matthew Coogan; Cromogue; 21/6/1958

Finton Lalor; farmer, Cromogue; 12/7/1958
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James Lalor; farmer, Parkvilla; 18/3/1964

Patrick Coogan; farmer, Cromogue; 30/4/1974

Patrick Lalor; Raheen; 26/12/1975

Kate Lalor; farmer,Parkvilla; 3/3/1976

Annie Lalor; farmer, Parkvilla; 7/10/1976

Fintan Lalor; farmer, Parkvilla; 20/3/1977

Mrs Lalor; farmer, Cromogue; 10/9/1983

Margaret Coogan; farmer, Cromogue; 12/10/1983

Thomas Coogan; farmer, Cromogue; 6/10/1984

Martin Lalor; farmer, Cromogue; 29/9/1942

John Coogan; labourer, Cromogue, 4/3/1994

John Lalor; farmer, Clonkeen; 4/8/1998

Kathleen Lalor; farmer, Clonkeen; 13/9/2000
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Jack

Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Rosslyn on Friday 16 December 11 20:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Jack

Thanks so much for that information. I beleive you have given me a gold mine! I now look forward to sifting through the list and adding more info to my husband's family history. Ireland is such a difficult place to get information.

Thanks again for going to the effort of sending this, much appreciated.

Kind regards (and Merry Christmas)

Ros
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Jack2227 on Monday 19 December 11 11:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Ros,
Headstone records from Raheen cemetery (St Fintans)

Martin Lalor; Cromogue; 29/9/1992 (66)
Mother- Mary; 1935 Interred in Clough
Father-Fintan; 12/7/1958
Aunt-Margaret Phelan; 16/7/1964
Step-mother; Elizabeth; 9/9/1983
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Thomas Lawlor; Clonkeen 9/5/1940 (62)
wife-Margaret; 25/12/1956 (79)
her Uncle- MICHAEL COOGAN; 5/7/1943 (67)
their dtr-Bridget Lawlor; 21/7/1959 (72)
John Lawlor; 4/8/1998
Kathleen Lawlor; 13/9/2000
Teresa Farrell; 11/6/2007
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Patrick Coogan; The Forge Cromogue 1896-1974
wife-Margaret; 12/10/1983 (72)
his Bro-Matthew (Matt); 16/7/1982 (93)
his Bro-Thomas (Tom); 26/10/1984 (90)
his Son-John; 4/3/1994 (46)
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James Lalor; Parkvilla 29/10/1933 (78)
wife-Mary; 15/11/1946 (85)
son-Joseph; 18/3/1940 (40)
son-James; 18/4/1964 (72)
dtr-Kathleen; 3/3/1976 (81)
dtr-Anne; 6/10/1977 (74)
son-Fintan; 15/3/1977 (80)
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Thomas Lawlor; Clonkeen 9/5/1940 (62)
wife-Margaret; 25/12/1956 (79)
his Uncle- MICHAEL COOGAN; 5/7/1943 (87)
Their dtr- Bridget Lawlor; 21/7/1989 (72)
John Lawlor; 4/8/1998
Kathleen Lawlor; 13/9/2000
Teresa Farrell; 11/6/2007
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Richard Lalor-Fitzpatrick; Tenakill 26/2/1940
wife-Mary Lalor-Fitzpatrick; 3/7/1957
son-James Lalor-Fitzpatrick; 23/2/1986
dtr-Anne Lalor-Fitzpatrick; 31/3/1992
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Jack
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 21 December 11 18:38 GMT (UK)
Coogan headstone Raheen
Jack
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Philp on Monday 04 June 12 09:16 BST (UK)
Dear Ros,

saw your note re Coogan/Lalor. Have you contacted the Chieftain of the Lalor Clan, Margot Coogan-Lalor. Her email is *


Regards,

Peter Lalor
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Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Rosslyn on Wednesday 29 August 12 21:43 BST (UK)
Hi Peter
I haven't been on this site for some time and have only just seen your message.
Margot happens to be second cousin to my husband and we have been in touch, she was out here in Australia last year but unfortunately we couldn't get down to Melbourne to see her I believe she is coming out again at the end of this year.

Are you aware of the book 'The Lalors of Laois" written by John Cherry? It has just been published and is very informative.

Thank you for your suggestion.

Kind regards

Ros
(Sydney)
Title: Re: COOGAN & LALOR marriage and births
Post by: Philp on Thursday 30 August 12 02:27 BST (UK)
Dear Ros,

Thank you for your reply. Margot is coming to Melbourne to join the Lalor Family Reunion which you and your family would be welcome to attend. Hopefull John Cherry might be able to make it too. If you wish to share your email. I'll send you an invitation and our newsletter.

Peter Lalor Philp
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