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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: TYROS on Friday 17 September 10 12:27 BST (UK)
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Hello all,
Firstly I am new to this site so bear with me, I support people with L.D. this quest is for information of the grave of Clara Winifred Swindell who died at the Parkside Mental Hospital, Victoria Road, Macclesfield in 1949, her date of birth was 39. her son whom I support has himself L.D. as did his mother, I have made it my goal to try & find Thomas mothers grave in, to take Thomas & place some flowers on her grave, " Can you help me please?) I have tried the Macclesfield & bollington Crematorium office with no results I have also emailed the Cheshire East Borough Council. If there are any persons on here that knew Clara & have any knowlege where she was buried will you please contact me at, (*) I & Thomas would be very greatfull for your help. Thank you all. Trebor.
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Hello Tyros
Do you know any more precisely when Clara died in 1949? Do you live near Macclesfield at all?
I think your best bet is to contact the library in Macclesfield - in person, by email - and see if there is a reference to her death, funeral in the local paper. You will though need to be a little more certain of the actual date so that too many copies of the paper do not have to be examined. It is possible to obtain the death certificate which will certainly give a precise date of death and will provide other useful information.
If you want any advice on getting the certificate let us know.
Incidentally the Index to Deaths shows her surname as Swindells not Swindell. You mentioned 39 in your post. This was her age when she died.
Regards
Reiver
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Hello.
the Person in Question was 39 according to her Death Cert this I downloaded from www.cheshirebmd.org, it does not give the date of death only what i know, the surname was Clara Winifred "Swindells" the surname is correct as I know from supporting her son, I do not live near Macclesfield but Clitheroe Lancashire Nr Blackburn, I am familier with Macclesfield as my previous job was a HGV Driver so I used to del to the Hurstfield Ind Est + a paper comp in Bollington, Going off her Death Cert the details given are, Death Cert/ Cheshire East: MBO/ 1/ 68 I do not know if this meas the 1st Jan 1968. I was in hope of someone that knew Clara & where she was buried, her son is now into his 70s & I would love to find his Mums grave if only to escourt Thomas to place some flowers on her grave, but thank you for your help I will keep searching hoping there is someone out there that has the information I need.
Thank You again.
Tyros.
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From the GRO index the death was registered in the second quarter 1949 - ie registered April-June. Deaths were usually registered quickly but it is possible (eg if there had to be an inquest) for there to be a delay. GRO reference is Macclesfield 10a 307 in the name Clara W Swindells.
This sounds "picky" but when you say I have tried the Macclesfield & bollington Crematorium office with no results I have also emailed the Cheshire East Borough Council.
do you mean you have had a negative response or no response at all? My gut feeling is that if she was a long term patient & there wasn't family to make arrangements she would have been buried or cremated by the local authority, but whether that would mean Macclesfield council or that of where she was from (as they were in 1949) I wouldn't know. Her birth was in the Alderley sub-district - as such the nearest council cemetery open then was probably Wilmslow, which now comes under Cheshire East as does Macclesfield. Their contact details are the same:
http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/community_and_living/bereavement_services/cemeteries/wilmslow.aspx
Macclesfield Crematorium opened in 1960, so cremation seems less likely.
I hope someone is able to help further.
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Hi Tyros
From North Cheshire Memorial Inscriptions/NCFHS
Parish Records Collection - burial
March 1949
Age: 39
Clara Winifred Swindells
Place:LINDOW
Description:ST JOHN CofE
Grave No: W.H 16
Contact details
http://www.saint-johns.org.uk/contact.jsp
Hope this helps ......and good luck!
Sarah :)
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Hello Sem & thank you
Hello Sem & thank you from Myself Trebor & Thomas Swindell, Clara's Son, the name of the Person Is Clara Winifred Swindells Sem, I am very thankfull for you help, I am engulfed in finding out as much as I can for Thomas as the Person is not in the best of health, I took him to the Cemetery at Macclesfield yesterday & asked Thomas would you like to put some flowers on his Mum's grave, He said YES this in-turn has given me the determination to go as far as possible to find the grave, for people like yourself & others is a bonus & we thank you, I have a number for the Vicker & will be contacting him tomorrow, I will keep you informed of my progress.
Thank You again, Trebor / Thomas.
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Well done Sarah....I think you have made a couple of people very very happy....this is what Rootschat is all about...allan ;)
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Hello All, this is my first posting onto this site, which I've only just found. We know that my wife's grandma died in Parkside Hospital, Macclesfield in 1983. My wife's late mother had been told that her mother died when she was young and, consequently, my wife never knew she had had a living grandmother until long after her death. We are desperately trying to find out where she was buried or cremated and whether any hospital photographs may possibly still exist. Her name was Rosetta Leaman (nee Tudor), born in Wrexham in 1899 and had been living in Marple Bridge/Compstall. We are aware that hospital records cannot be released for 100 years and would be extremely grateful for any help anybody could give us. Thank you in anticipation. Nigel and Heather
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Hi Nigel / Heather,
It had taken me 5 months to find the parents of Tommy, we went to visit his parents grave & fore filled my aim, regards your plight, there is no Cemetry at Parkside, the only indication that is was a hospital was the main entrance, it now is a new housing estate, from the Hospital is the main Cemetary, there is an office at the entrance that may help you with their records, I have not got the Tel No, if you Google the Ce.metary their no should come up, If I find the Number I will come back on here and send it to you, If you scroll down this page you will see some Links that may help you, I wish you all the very best, but do not give up ( I did not) the info is out there some where.
Regards Trebor
PS / Tommys parents grave was at Bolden, Nr Altringham.
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Hi Trebor,
Thank you for replying to my post so quickly. I am so pleased you were able to find Tommy's parents' grave for him. I shall follow the advice you have given and hope we will be as fortunate. I will let you know how we get on.
Thanks again and best wishes,
Nigel
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Hi Trebor,
I followed your advice and phoned Macclesfield Cemetery and Crematorium. They gave me the answer we were looking for in 30 seconds. Rosetta was cremated there on 24th August 1983. We are 30 years too late but somehow so much closer to her.
Thank you so much for your help.
Very best wishes, Nigel and Heather
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Hi Nigel / Heather,
I'm so glad for you Heather / Nigel, it now puts to rest your search & puts your mind at rest, that person that I search for Tommy, the person never ever raised his head, the Community home I worked at no-one ever came to see Tommy, the only time you see their relations is when the pass & then they are there like flies looking if there was any money going, with very little to go on I was determined to find his history & his parents grave, this took a hell of a lot of Google searching, car journeys, I was like a dog with a bone I would not give up, my search was rewarded the day I took Tommy to his Parents grave, although Tommy could not kneel Down I put the flowers on their Grave, I said to Tommy these are your parents Tommy,He raised his head up, looked at me then the headstone, very touching, I'm glad I give you some sort of help, all the best to you both.
Regards Trebor.
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All the best to you too Trebor.
Thank you once again.
Nigel