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Title: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: DiggingDeep on Thursday 16 September 10 19:21 BST (UK)
Is there any relationship between Fr. George Rigg, who was a priest in South Uist and Bishop George Rigg who was Bishop of Dunkeld, Scotland
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 16 September 10 20:39 BST (UK)
Hi Digging Deep

What do you have so far on both Georges. These look to be Bishop George Rigg's main details:

Bishop George Rigg
Born: 1814.07.19
Ordained Priest: 1838.07.25
Consecrated Bishop: 1878.05.26
Died:   1887.01.18 († 72)
   
Bishop of Dunkeld 1878.03.22 – 1887.01.18

www.gcatholic.com/dioceses/diocese/dunk0.htm

Bishop Rigg's birth place on the 1881 census shows as Crockmore Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire.

Monica  :)

Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 16 September 10 20:48 BST (UK)
Entry No. 90 also provides a brief biography on Bishop Riggs, including parents' details.

www.electricscotland.com/history/spain/collegeappndx3bs.pdf

Monica
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 16 September 10 21:00 BST (UK)
Newspaper report here http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZT18971022.2.2&l=mi&e=-------10--1----2-all  which report on the heroic death of Father George Rigg, South Uist. In this, he is showing as nephew of the late Bishop George Rigg.

Reference there to also further newspaper reporting.

You can't do find and search on this link! Long section, the story regarding Father Rigg's death is about two thirds down.

Monica
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 16 September 10 21:05 BST (UK)
The tale of self-sacrifice of Father George Rigg is very
beautiful ; he was in the thirty-sixth year of his age and
the seventh of his priesthood. Day after day for several
weeks he had been attending cases of fever and nursing
the patients from morning till night, since no other
person not even the nearest relative would venture
within gunshot of the infected houses. One case was
particularly noticeable that of a poor old woman and her
only son. They both sickened of the fever and had no
one to attend them. Father Rigg was their only helper ;
he cooked their food, tidied the house, and mended the
fire. The son died first, and he laid him in his coffin and
attended him to the grave. After this he too caught
the fever, and at the end of a week, despite the constant
care of three doctors, he succumbed, having thus sacri
ficed his own life to save that of others, and to care for
them in death. His own coffin was borne part of the
way to the grave by the six neighbouring priests, and as
the story of his heroic death became known great was
the admiration which it excited, and loud the praise that
was lavished on the young priest in the far-distant isle
of Uist.

www.archive.org/stream/catholichighland02blunuoft/catholichighland02blunuoft_djvu.txt
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 16 September 10 22:26 BST (UK)
The best place to confirm the relationship between the two Georges would be through parents' names on their death cert (1887 and 1897).

I am having a problem establishing the nephew relationship  :-\

Bishop George's parents are showing as George Rigg and Isabel Caven on the link above and we know his birth year was 1814.

Father George's parents I think were a James Rigg and Eliza Stephenson. His age at death in the Summer of 1897 shows as 36. I am wondering whether this may be his birth entry:

GEORGE STEPHENSON RIGG Birth: 06 AUG 1860 Stornoway, Ross And Cromarty
Parents: JAMES RIGG and ELIZA STEPHENSON

The parents and children in 1861:

James Rigg 36, farmer b. Kelton Kircudbright
Eliza Rigg 34 b. England
Mary Rigg 13 b. Annan, Dumfrieshire
Elenor Rigg 4 (likely 11, aged 1 in 1851) b. Coll, Rossshire
Eliza Rigg 9 b. Coll, Rossshire
Jessie Ann Rigg 7 b. Coll, Rossshire
James Rigg 2 b. Coll, Rossshire
George Rigg 8 months b. Coll, Rossshire

Address: Coll House, Stornoway

The closest I can see for James Snr. above in 1841, with the usual problem of the 1841 census in that no relationships are included within households:

Thomas Rigg 55, farmer
Mary Rigg 40
Nicholas Rigg 20
Elisabeth Rigg 20
John Rigg 15
James Rigg 15
Catterina Rigg 12
Lucy Rigg 10
Barbara Rigg 8
Rev. Thos John Strain 30, Catholic Clergyman

Address: Midkelton Farm House, Kelton Kirkcudbright

Monica
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: DiggingDeep on Friday 17 September 10 18:40 BST (UK)
Thanks Monica, boy have you been busy.

Some of the information you put up I already have, which means I was on the right track, so its great to get it verified, thank you very much.

 I will see can I get the death certs.

I was brought up believing that I had relatives from South Uist and a relative who was the Bishop George Rigg. I think it is most likely that as Fr Rigg was a curate on Uist, was confused with being from there?? and both he and Bishop Rigg feature in the family folklore but not from Uist. I'll continue to look for the link..... The other link in the broken chain is Violet Riggs, my ggg grandmother born into a presbyterian edinburgh family(St Cuthbert's) in 1834. Her father was a George Riggs and if he has a connection to the 2 George Rigg.
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 17 September 10 19:42 BST (UK)
Maybe confirming George Rigg's parents (Violet's father) from his death cert would help you if you haven't checked already. From the little I have seen, the Riggs from Kirkcudbrightshire related to Bishop and Father Rigg were from long standing Roman Catholic families from that area.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: sancti on Friday 17 September 10 20:57 BST (UK)
Catholic baptism

26/08/1860 RIGG GEORGE STEVENSON - JAMES RIGG/ELIZABETH STEVENSON (ELIZA STEVENSON) COLT Male at  DRIMNIN, ST COLUMBA'S
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: sancti on Friday 17 September 10 21:01 BST (UK)
http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=22336
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: sancti on Friday 17 September 10 21:04 BST (UK)
1841 census

George Riggs 27 born Midlothian occ Shoemaker
Jane Riggs 25
Violet Riggs 9
William Riggs 5
George Riggs 2
Nicol Riggs 1 MO

Civil parish: Edinburgh Iron Church
County: Midlothian
Address: Toddricks Wynd High Street

 
 
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: sancti on Friday 17 September 10 21:13 BST (UK)
1841 census

Dr. Revd. James Gillis 35
Revd. George Rigg 30 born Scotland
Elzia Maxwell 30
John Menzies 80
Martin Bingin 20
Janet Donaldson 55
Margaret Mccarty 30
Mary Milne 25

Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: Greenhill Cottage

 
 
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: sancti on Friday 17 September 10 22:00 BST (UK)
There is also this catholic bapism on SP

19/03/1812 RIGG GEORGE - JAMES RIGG/NANCY LITTLE Male at KIRKCONNEL, ST CONAL
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: sancti on Friday 17 September 10 22:06 BST (UK)
1861 census

Name: George Rigg
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relationship: Head

Where born: Crackmore, Kirkcudbrightshire

Registration district: Perth Burgh
Civil parish: Perth Burgh
County: Perthshire
Address: 16 Melville Street

Occupation: Roman Catholie Clergyman St John's
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: patmotty on Thursday 03 May 12 05:36 BST (UK)
My direct line comes from the RIGG'S of Kirkcudbrightshire.   James RIGG (my GGGGrandfather)  1765 Twynholm -1841Twynholm married Grace TAGGART 1767 Borgue -1837 Twynholm.  The family lived at High Banks Farm and the line from George Rigg B1861 comes from their son Thomas RIGG 1789-1853 who married Mary Webster 1785-1853.  Their son James 1826 - death unknown at this stage married Eliza STEVENSON 1824 from Shropshire England.

From census entries I have George B1861 as their 5th child.  Would really like to find out anymore I can about George and the rest of the RIGGS. 
Many thanks
Pat
AUSTRALIA
Title: Re: Fr. George Rigg and Bishop George Rigg
Post by: patmotty on Thursday 02 April 20 02:10 BST (UK)
I am trying to confirm the grandparents of Bishop George Rigg.  I know his parents are George Rigg 1772-1818 and Isabella Caven 1788-1869.  Can anyone confirm the parents of George Rigg and/or Isabella Caven.  They are my GGGreat Uncle and Aunty.  Many thanks patmotty.