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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: VDLstories on Thursday 16 September 10 15:18 BST (UK)
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Hello
I am seeking employment/working life information about great grandfather David Gough from Glasgow.
In 1901 aged 15 in Scottish Census he was a "Printers Apprentice" living on Sandyfaulds st
On 1905 marriage cert. he is a "Printer's Manager" and married Esther Cope, a "Printers assistant" living on South York Street
In 1955 he was aged 70 and 'running a Glasgow Catholic newspaper - according to family stories in Australia.
Was he working in the same place for 55 years?
Was it the Scottish Catholic Observer newspaper?
www.scottishcatholicobserver.org.uk/
But a memory of a family visit from Australia then suggests it was not a very big printery. So was this the printworks of another smaller local Catholic newspaper, or one that printed other material also as well as some Catholic pamphlets etc?
I have emailed the Scottish Catholic Observer last week, asking whether David Gough had been employed there, but no news as yet.
Does anyone have any ideas, direction, or information ?
thanks
Julie
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As far as I know the Observer was the only "mainstream" Catholic newspaper although it has changed titles slightly over the years - It was once "The Glasgow Catholic Observer".
Do you have any addresses - I'll check the 1943 directory for the City.
(a quick look indicates about 20 - 30 printing companies in the C1 area)
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Many thanks
I have no name or address for the print works, am still thinking it must be the Catholic Observor.
The home addresses I have to date are:
1901 [GOUGH] 19 Sandyfaulds st, Govan
1905 - [GOUGH] 438 South York St Glasgow
1920 [as MC GOUGH] – 494 Crown st Glasgow
are any of these near a printery - incl. the Catholic Observor?
I don't yet have any post 1920 addresses bu twill get onto Scotland's people and see what I can find for births of children etc for the family up to the cut off dates.
thanks again
Julie
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South York Street and Crown Street were previously identified by the postal district C5 within that area and C1 which covered part of the City Cente and east end you have about 20 to 30 different printing companies listed.If you consider reasonable travelling from either areathe number more than doubles and adding in Govan (SW1) increases the number again.
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Do you know when and where he died?
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hi and thanks to you both
I have just heard from a relative who knows more, and will ask more.
Julie
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Did he have a middle name?
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Death for his wife
1960 GOUGH ESTHER other name COPE Female aged 75 at CATHCART (GLASGOW) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
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Thanks
I think the same year for David too, but is 1960 not yet on Scotland's people?
or more difficult to obtain, or something?
Julie
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Thanks
I think the same year for David too, but is 1960 not yet on Scotland's people?
or more difficult to obtain, or something?
Julie
With a 1960 death you need to order the certificate which costs £10.
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Hi Sancti
Middle name: Storer AKA Storrar
David Storer/Storrar Gough [born McGough, Married as Gough]
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I think there is a death for David Storrar Gough in Old Monkland 1957 but I can't access SP at the moment >:(
EDIT
Got access again
1957 GOUGH DAVID STORRAR Male aged 72 at OLD MONKLAND (WESTERN DISTRICT) /LANARK
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Thanks Sancti
That is him.
Many thanks, he passed away much earlier than I thought.
Lived then in Carmyle.
Also I found that from Scotland's people that: A 1960 death should be on [Scotland's People] late December 2010/early January 2011.
Also I now know the Catholic paper was printed in North Frederick st, though don't yet know the name of it, I found these two miniature mentions:
" Scottish Catholic Company, Limited, 32, North Frederick Street,. Glasgow. Inside it calls itself The Catholic Parish Magazine, for other parishes can, if they choose, make it their ... The news of the world, as far as it affects Catholic ... " [this excerpt only online]
http://www.scottishprintarchive.org/info.php?id=32&page=7
from:
• The Irish Monthly
Vol. 37, No. 435 (Sep., 1909), pp. 525-532
(review consists of 8 pages)
• Published by: Irish Jesuit Province
• Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/20502678
and GREAT photos including of Frederick st on this site:
"...North Frederick St, west side north of George Sq. The building next to the George seems to have been the Glasgow office of the Irish Weekly and Ulster Examiner, a Belfast newspaper which closed in 1982. September 1973 ..."
http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/archive/glasgow-in-the-1970s-the-city__o_t__t_1453.html
Also:
George Square and North Frederick St. September 1973
So I am getting closer - though not yet sure if the paper was perhaps "the Catholic Parish Magazine" or "the Glasgow office of the Irish Weekly and Ulster Examiner" or office/printer for both etc.
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If it was North Frederick Street - you also have the publishers of "The Glasgow Observer" at 52 North Frederick Street. This of course became The Glasgow Catholic Observer and then The Scottish Catholic Observer.
Nothing listed for 32 North Frederick Street in the 1927 or the 1943 directories. (although this could simply mean it was a small company who didn't buy space in the directories)
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What was the actual date of his death in 1957?
Have you checked for obits?
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Thanks again
no haven't thought of that:
8 Aug 1957
Do you know where/how to check for those?
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I had a quick look at the Glasgow Herald archives but can't see him mentioned
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Thanks very much for checking
no worries
I can go into Mitchell Library with my growing folder and look up obits too in 2 weeks once in Glasgow for a few days, in other papers etc, perhaps they will have info or leads about him and about Frederick st printers too.
Julie