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Hi everyone, I have been tracing my family tree for the last couple of years and have easily traced it back to the 1700's using Scotland's People online. My partner has now asked me to do his for him - which is the family name Myers, coming from London and I cannot seem to get started! Are there no sites where you can pay per view and see BMD certificates online? It seems costly and time consuming to order certificates which may ultimately be the wrong ones!
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can u post what you know already? :)
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Ok, my partner's Father was Rodney Myers, born 4/9/32. His Mother was, we believe, Edith Clifton. The only one we could find in London was Edith E Clifton, who Married Nathaniel MEYERS(?) in oct/nov/dec 1929, and that's where I'm stuck!!
Would the name spelling change like that only 2 generations ago? I can't find a birth for him, nor do I know where to get the marriage certificate for their details....
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a search for a nathaniel meyers gives very few results,,,whereas there are a few myers,,,,,i would say that it would be not impossible that either the marriage entry was mistranscribed,,,or that they decided to anglicise thier surname,
however i think the only way forward would be to buy rodneys birth cert... ;)
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i did a quick search and there are no Meyers / Clifton births as far as i could see did Rodney have a sister? i did find a birth won't post details incase she is still alive
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Hiya, Rodney did have a Sister... my partner thinks her name is/was Pat/patricia (Sorry, he's no good at this hence me doing it!) It's all a bit vague and I may well have to apply for his full birth certificate to get out of the starting blocks!
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her name was June ......... the birth i found i was going to say to speak to her possibly its another family then
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Edith Clifton m Nathaniel Meyers, Islington, Dec. quarter 1929, Volume 1b, page 424.
That marriage certificate will contain useful details.
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A possible Edith E Clifton birth was registered Islington June quarter 1902, vol 1b, page 245.
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Assuming that Edith Clifton was the mother then there was a rapid surname change as Rodney W Myers is the birth registered Sept quarter 1932, Finsbury, vol 1b, page 821. His death at Reading age 72 was also recorded as Rodney W Myers.
So, if your partner is Myers the whole Edith Clifton matter may be a red herring. How did this name come into it?
You definitely need Rodney's birth certificate.
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Rodney William Myers, on his birth reg it is given as mmn. Clifton therefore i think zephycat looked for a marriage betwixt Myers and Clifton and found MEyers and Clifton marriage but there was another birth later as i said of a June Myers mmn. Clifton
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Morning all :)
Thank you for checking these for me, it's a huge help!
That is definately the correct Rodney, with the birth and then the death in Reading. I have just asked MArtin again if he is certain her name is Edith Clifton and he says that is the name his Mum has given him. I then asked him if his Dad had a sister named June to which he replied "Yes! That's it!! not Pat" (You see now why I'm finding this so hard to get going!!) ;D
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Because there doesn’t seem to be a marriage between Edith Clifton and Mr. Myers only the Nathaniel MEYERS one I would be tempted to think this is yours but would have to purchase one of the birth certificates, either Rodneys or Junes to get the parents names from there before progressing.
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Was it her first marriage- or could she have been married befroe?
Maybe they didn't actually marry- it was more common than you think back then ;)
Carol
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There's a marriage of an Edith M Jones to an Arthur H Myers in Islington in Sept 1929.
Will see if I can find a Clifton to a Jones earlier than that.
Added- none found,so that is probably a red herring
I agree that the birth cert of Rodney in 1932 is required to find the right parents ;)
Carol
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Agreed, will need to order and see what that brings up! Martin's Mum showed up as 'Nee Brand, Late Neame' on his birth certificate, which he had never known about, so that certainly proves your point Carol! Is it possible to purchase the certificate to view online or does it have to be through the post?
Many thanks :)
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You can see the ways to order, prices and everything at the government site:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
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No you have to have it sent through the post- in England and Wales the rules are that it has to be a certified copy( ie stamped with a register office stamp)
Use http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ it should cost no mroe than £9-25,and they will post anywhere for that including OZ and USA.
Carol