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Title: David Lewis
Post by: Dannemois on Wednesday 15 September 10 15:35 BST (UK)
Can some one please help locate David Lewis, son of David & Mary Anne Lewis, on the 1861, 1891 and 1901 census from the following known details?   He was born c.1844 in Llanddewi Brefi and I have him listed at home on the 1851, age 7.  Whatever the reason he is not listed at home on the 1861?  He is back with his widow mother on the 1871 and then located in 'Nantcwnlle' ? on the 1881.   

1851 Census: Cherry Tree, Llanddewi village [HO107/2487/272/10]
Name         Rel  Con   Age   Occ                   Born
David Lewis   HD   M   36   Weaver                   Carmarthen St Peter
Mary Anne     WI   M   35   Dressmaker   Llanddewi Brefi, Card
Mary         DA        13   App dress maker   Llanddewi Brefi
Hannah         DA        10                            Llanddewi Brefi
David         SO        07                      Llanddewi Brefi
Catherine         DA        05                      Llanddewi Brefi
Jane         DA        03                      Llanddewi Brefi
Micah         SO        11m                      Llanddewi Brefi
Charles James, Lod,   W, 74, Pen/Chelsea/Hos   Llandeilo, Carm

1871 Census @ Penuwch [Rg10/5571/72/5]
Mary A. Lewis  HD, WID, 54, Llanddewi Brefi
David,  Son, 26, Wool weaver/ Methodist preacher,Llanddewi Brefi
Charles,son, 18   Wool weaver   Llanddewi Brefi

1881 Census @ Nantcwnlle, Cardigan [RG11/5451/82/6] Dwelling: Dolbwia
Margaret Davies, HD, WID, 72   Weavers Widow   Llanddewi Aberarth,
Thomas Davies, SO   U, 42, Wool Weaver employing 2 weavers, Nantcwnlle   
Mary Davies, DA, U,   34, Nantcwnlle, Cardigan
David Lewis, U, 34   Wool Weaver journeyman   Llanddewi Brefi   


David Lewis [1843-1916]
Poet ‘Byron’
Died an itinerant in Lampeter

Regards, Roy
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: osprey on Monday 20 September 10 12:13 BST (UK)
possible?

1901 Dolbwba, Nantcwnlle RG13/5158 folio 78 pg 7
Evan Davies head mar 28 weaver woollen employer b. carms, Llanybyther
Margaret wife 26 b. Cards, Cellan
David son 7 b. Cellan
Elizabeth A dau 6 b. Cellan
John Ivor son 1 b. Nantcwnlle
Catherine mother-in-law widow 60 b. Llangybi
David B Lewis servant mar 53 weaver woollen b. Llanddewibrefi
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: Dannemois on Monday 20 September 10 12:56 BST (UK)
Hello Osprey
Your entry for 1901 looks good and what is interesting David Lewis is married.  He is listed as unm on the 1881 so hopefully he can be located on the 1891.

Cheers Roy
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: osprey on Monday 20 September 10 17:49 BST (UK)
the only possible for David Lewis I can see in 1891 is boarding in Ynysybwl, enumerated as 45, married, born Llanddewi, but his occupation is labourer in Windsor pit. From weaver to labourer & back to weaver? Don't know how likely that is.

 :-\
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: Dannemois on Monday 20 September 10 19:23 BST (UK)
If this is our man you have done incredible well to locate him here as a labourer in Windsor colliery.  It would seem by th eother census details he travelled for work, maybe he tried his hand working in the pit but it didn't suit him.

Well done and thanks
Roy
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: Dannemois on Monday 20 September 10 20:10 BST (UK)
Just a thought in 1881 he was lodging in Natcwnlle with Margaret Davies; she had a daughter Mary of the same age as David Lewis.  On the 1901 he is back in Nantcwnlle, married but within the household of Evan Davies.  Is it possible he may have married Mary Davies ???
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: osprey on Monday 20 September 10 21:12 BST (UK)
hmm, now there's a thought!

possible marriage reg
David Lewis dec qtr 1884 Tregaron vol 11b pg 123 with Mary Davies on the same page.
The other 2 names on the page Joseph Morgan & Margaret James could be the Joseph & Margaret Morgans in Gorwydd, Llanddewi brefi in 1894, their eldest child being 5. RG12/4564 folio 116 pg 11

Not that I can find a likely Mary Lewis in 1891 or 1901.

 :-\
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: Dannemois on Tuesday 21 September 10 19:46 BST (UK)
Hi Osprey
Sorry to be a pain but would it be possible to have the full details for the household where you found David Lewis lodging in 1891 at Ynysybwl
Regards, Roy
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 22 September 10 21:31 BST (UK)
1891 20 Augusta St, Ynysybwl RG12/4414 folio 117 pg 29
Cornelius Jones head mar 42 haulier Windsor Pit b. Anglesey ?
Elizabeth wife 36 b. Caernarvonshire, Llangurig (?)
Hugh son 9 b. Caernarvonshire, Cwmglo
John son 7 b. Caernarvonshire, Llanddew?
David Lewis boarder mar 45 labourer Windsor Pit b. Cards, Llanddewi
John Parry lodger single 19 labourer Windsor Pit b. Merioneth, Llandderfel
Henry Awsten lodger single 40 coal miner Windsor Pit b. Breconshire, Llanelly
Joseph Davies lodger single 40 mason b. Denbighshire, Ruthin

Henry speaks Welsh & English, everyone else Welsh only. Sorry, struggling with the place names in in Anglesey & Caernarvonshire.
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: Dannemois on Thursday 23 September 10 19:49 BST (UK)
Hi osprey
Interesting household, many thanks for the details, much appreciated
Roy
Title: Re: David Lewis
Post by: Welshroofing on Saturday 29 January 22 10:00 GMT (UK)
Quote from: osprey on Monday 20 September 10 21:12 BST (UK)
hmm, now there's a thought!

possible marriage reg
David Lewis dec qtr 1884 Tregaron vol 11b pg 123 with Mary Davies on the same page.
The other 2 names on the page Joseph Morgan & Margaret James could be the Joseph & Margaret Morgans in Gorwydd, Llanddewi brefi in 1894, their eldest child being 5. RG12/4564 folio 116 pg 11

Not that I can find a likely Mary Lewis in 1891 or 1901.

 :-\joseph Morgan and Margaret had a son jonnie and a daughter Hannah. There was a Mary but she was live in help. My g grand mother. I have a lot of information around llanddewi brefi.