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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: GrandadsSixpence on Wednesday 15 September 10 08:16 BST (UK)
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I have found in the General Quarter Sessions 12 July 1886 in Clerkenwell an entry stating that a Thomas Upright was imprisioned for 12 months for the crime of 'incorrigible rogue'. Am wondering if this could be my Thomas??? He did squander all my ggggrandmother's money between 1876-1877. How would I go about finding out more information about his trial?
Any suggestions welcomed!
Wend
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I thought I recognised the name! We had great fun with him on Lancs board in early August. Do you think it would be a good idea to post the links so no one else goes over old ground? (I know this is a specific enquiry about the Clerkenwell aspect, but people do try to be so helpful on here ;D)
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good idea, how do you do it?
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I knew you'd ask me that! :D
I think you go to the first thread, copy the address from the bar at the top and paste it into your reply, then go to the second thread and do the same for that one, then post your reply..........I think.
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,473337.0.html
Wee hee, It works
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,472382.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,472384.0.html
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Have applied to National Archives for estimate for copying the papers of the trial to check if this is my Thomas, will post anything of interest when received.
thanks all
Wend
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National Archives say there is too much info to go through and it would be best for me to either visit in person or pay a researcher to go in and copy the relevant documents :(
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Hello, I am an melvin- Upright born...My Father was James Frederick Melvin-Upright ..His Father was Edmund Bidgood Melvin-Upright..My brother is Melvin John Francis Melvin -Upright.....bit of a theme going here...Your Thomas Theophilus is one of mine...can not remember who or how ,too much paperwork...LOL.....There were two sides to the family that were on the stage....The Granville-Uprights and the Melvin-Uprights....bit of bad blood I understand between brothers or cousins or something.We Melvin looked down on the Granvilles and they upon us...Would like to keep in touch with anyone who is an Upright,because we are all related to the ones that came from Devon......
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Hi Melvin, good to hear from you. You will see from the posts my connection to Thomas Theophilus Upright, he was the second husband of my ggg-grandmother, Hannah Staves. He was a bit of a philanderer, married Hannah in 1873, they had a child in 1875, Beatrice, then he spent all the money left to Hannah by her first husband and scarpered ! Cannot find him between 1881 and 1901. He turns up in Salford in 1901 with a 'common law' wife, Annie, then he died in 1911 from the tertiary stage of syphilis. I understand that his brother Edmund Luther who was also known as Edgar Granville died from syphilis related disease also. I have a picture of both Thomas and one believed to be of Edmund if you are interested. Drop me a message via private messaging with your email address if you would like copies. Is your tree on-line, mine is on Ancestry which I can give you access to if interested. Kind regards, Wendy
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:P Hello Wendy,long time no root chatting...I have moved into sheltered housing and been unfit for anything ever since...Did you ever get to the bottom of the Upright court case at Clerkenwell...would love to have some info...that old rogue...all the family around that time were the same,my Grandfather Edmund Bidgood Upright included...I was on genesconnect with most of my tree ,supplied by Jim from the Canadian branch,but I must have fallen foul of Genes because the tree has disappeared from the site and they want me to start all over again...it took me 5 years to do the first one and with my health as it is right now,I am not able to sit at this machine for very long,,,HO HUM !! the joys of getting older..by the way...I am not Melvin..I am Anna..Melvin-Upright was my birth surname...I think it really should have been plain Upright but my Father James Frederick Melvin -Upright had delusions of grandure..and why not !!! (my poor brother was named Melvin John Francis Melvin-Upright.....)