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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: berri on Tuesday 14 September 10 11:49 BST (UK)
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Please can anyone shed a little light for us on the following:
Wiiliam smith born 1903 croydon M annie coles lived mitcham died Crawley w sussex
Son of
Rachel deekings M Samuel smith.....Born in Cheam Lived cherry island
Daughter of
Thomas & Rachel....he was born in Buckland/ reigate he is Pos burried in Redhill with Rose??
Son of
Thomas Married Elizabeth ?
Do you know any of the names/families here? Any details or clues welcome.
Thanks. :)
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Only census I can find family on
1881 Census Cheam Surrey *Longfellow Rd In Tents*
Henry Hares & Olive
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Thomas Deekins 35 b 1846 Nk * all family ;listed Unknown* Licensed Hawker
Rachel 32 b 1849
Amy 15 b 1866
Rose 13 b 1868
Thomas 11 b 1870
Abraham 8 b 1873
Rachel 5 b 1876
Alfred 3 b 1878
Infant Daughter 3mths
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John Parker - Ellen William Henry Ellen
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James Parker -Charlotte Mark Moses
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Sampson Hoadley. Matilda Sampson.Horace.Alice
Possible marriages
Alfred Deacons married Tilda Hoadley 1901 Chertsey Surrey
Abraham Deakins married Louise James 1905 Riegate Surrey
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Hi Berri
Thomas Deakins who was born in Buckland in 1838 is the brother of my Great Grand Mother. His parents were Thomas & Elizabeth as your rightly stated. I have no record of Thomas after the 1851 census.
However, Thomas Deakins who married Rachel Franklin (see tiggi's post below) is the subject of a book called 'old ways, new ways' by Lindsey Marsh & Rosie Smith who are descendants of THIS Thomas.
We (Lindsey, Rosie and myself) are desperately trying to prove that the two Thomas's are the same person, so if you have anything to prove this we will be grateful ;D
Tiggi - someone has just sent me a post asking about the Sampson Hoadley in your post. Apparently he married a Matthews. If I can trace this then the Thomas with Rachel is definately MY Thomas as his sister married a Matthews.
Lorraine x
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Hi,
I have a Samson Hoadley b 1865 he married Margaret Matthews in 1889 in Maidstone Kent.
Hope this helps.
Sam
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Hi Sam
Thanks for that, I have found them all now ;D and proved that both Thomas Deakins were the same person!
Lorraine x
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Hi, reading with interest as Thomas Deacons and Rachel Franklin are my husband Paul Deacons' 2nd Great grandparents. I realise this is an old thread but Paul has recently DNA tested and I have added his Ancestry DNA test to MyHeritage and Gedmatch, too.
Regards, Debbie :)
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Debbie,
Paul is a match on Ancestry to my father Ray Roberts. My Great Grandmother was Lizzie Deacon from Sussex.
Maybe these different Deacons are related as I have always thought.
Regards
Paul
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Hi All - I know this is a longshot due to the length of time this has all been posted but have just found out whilst researching my family tree that my great aunt Louisa James married Abraham Deakins in 1905 son of Thomas and Rachel. Looking for any information on these i.e. children and where they lived to try and get some more information. Any help gratefully received.
Waynus James
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Hi Waynus, I have an extensive Family Tree on Ancestry, MyHeritage etc.
Thomas Deakins and Rachel Franklin were my Husband's 2nd Great Grandparents and he has DNA tested, too.
Kind regards,
Debbie
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Hi Debbie Thank you for coming back to me. I have been on Ancestry and found the Deakins family tree and also found Louie James on there. It has been a bit confusing on Ancestry because I didn't realise she had been married twice to a Charles Marney in 1916 so I found 2 Louie James with the same dob and parents but different surnames. I see Louie had 1 daughter Rose with Abraham but not much else. Can you find out from your in-laws if Louie had more children or more inportantly a photo of Louie and her children to add to my family tree. It would be lovely to put a face to the name. I did here that Louie died in the same house where her mother lived in Queens Road. Maybe there is a photo of her parents somewhere? It appears Rose married a Ben Eastwood - are there your in-laws or that line? Any info would be lovely. Thank you Debbie best wishes Waynus
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Hi Waynus,
I don't have any photo's I'm afraid, it's my husband's tree and his sister probably has them somewhere.
I found Louisa and Charlie Marney were on the 1921 census alone, with no children.
Daughter Rosie was married to Benjamin Eastwood in 1930, but were living as man and wife by at least the 1921 census.
DNA would be the way forwards, being Travellers, I can't guarantee that Louisa didn't have other children with either Abraham or Charles, whether they survived or not, either, I really coudn't say.
Kind regards,
Debbie
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thank you debbie so much if you do come by a photo from your sister inlaw rememer me best wishis waynus