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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: victoriajoule on Monday 13 September 10 20:48 BST (UK)
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Hi, hopefully someone can help or guide me to the right records to look at. I am looking to find the full details of a family from County Mayo - this is all the information I have:
John Kelly b. 1876 Westport, County Mayo - he is on the UK 1901 census in Haltwhistle Northumberland. His father was called Thomas Kelly. I don't know his mothers name, but he had two sisters (called Catherine and Anna) and 3 brothers (names unknown). His mother, sisters and brothers moved to New York, but I don't know when exactly though the family story is they went to the USA and he went to England so I am assuming in the 1890s. I am trying to find his mothers name if anyone can help me ? The Irish census's don't seem very complete!
Thanks
Victoria
PS - also what is the best (ideally free) migration site to use to find out when they went to the USA ? I would like to search for all of them as a family but so far I can only find sites that let me search one person at a time.
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The most likely port of arrival is New York. See www.ellisisland.org for passenger records 1892-1924 and if it is pre-1892 then look at www.castlegarden.org (both free sites). However, passenger records for 1890s usually have little details- name, age, occupation, country of origin.
Added- you will have to search for 1 person at a time but you can view the manifests and hopefully the family will be listed together.
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Victoria - I'm new to rootschat, just saw your post. Have you found out anything more about John Kelly westport b.1876? I'm in westport and he could be connected to my people......please PM me for details
James
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Hi Victoria
John Kelly Westport birth 1876 drawing a blank.
Taking a John born 1876 to a Thomas with sisters Catherine and Anna/Anne as absolutes the LDS site turns up :-
John birth December 11 1876
Catherine birth May 10 1875
Anne Birth December 4 1873
Parents Thomas Kelly and Mary Meehan.
No other births attributed,though others may have occured without parents details being transcribed.
Place of Birth Lisballaly,Gurteen,Sligo.
A Thomas Kelly appears in the Griff Valuations Barony:Coolavin,Union:Boyle,Parish:Kilfree,Townland:Lisbaleely. Landlord:Lord De Freyne.
With all the upheavals in the late 19th C many families gravitated to the larger towns which may be a possibility here as no 1901 census details are evident for this family.
Hope the above may be of some help.
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Hi Victoria again,
Just had a peak at some of your other posts and note the year of 1876 for Johns birth may be a bit shaky.
Another alternative for you could be Catherine Cosgriff/Cosgrave/Cosgrove all the same person but variant spellings.
John birth Feb 18 1878
Catherine birth June 9 1864
Anne birth Aug 18 1879
Ellen birth Sep 28 1866
Michael birth Aug 19 1874
Thomas birth May 7 1871
You've got one extra sister and one less brother .Birth area Cuiltybo, Mayo,Clanmorris,not a million miles from Westport, which may fall in line with Kiltimagh suggested on another thread.
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Hi Padraig3
Thanks for having a look. The original family you mention might be who I am looking for as according to the Ellis.org ship manifest, I believe John Kelly was going to his mothers and she is down as Mary Anne Kelly....possible Mary Meehan?. I will need to have another more detailed look. I have a feeling however the other children were born later than John and not earlier, but again need to look again at it. I am also guessing (and need to look up) but that Sligo isn't near Mayo ?? Appreciate the time you have spent looking and helping though...one of those family history challenges ;-0
Thanks
Victoria
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Hi I am also interested in the Kelly Family from Westport, Co Mayo. I have a William Kelly born around 1848 and his wife Mary Malley based on the 1901 and 1911 Census records. The lived for a time on Castlebar street and then later on the FairGreen. William was involved in 1915 in the funeral car business and a pub. The had a number of children which I know about but no other details. Any added info would be much appreciated.
To add a bit more detail, William and Mary had a lot of Children, approx. 11, I believe, the were
John b. 1862
Elizabeth b.1866
Edward b. 1870
Thomas b. 1722 d. 1872
Mary Ellen b. 1874 m. 1896 John Wilson
Margaret b. 1876
Catherine (Kate) b. 1878 m. 1904 William Gunning
Grace & Alfred b. 1880, Alfred d. 1881
Thomas b. 1883
Martin b. 1886
Son Edward (Ned) took over Funeral car Business after 1915 as William is mentioned at the bottom of this article in 1915 :-
http://www.militaryheritagetours.com/obituary_sgt_maj_coughlan_vc.html
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For reference here's your William Kelly in 1901-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Westport_Urban/Fair_Green/1607774/
and in 1911- says Mary had 13 children but only 7 living:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Westport__Urban/Fair_Green_Street/749340/
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James
I got your message, but I am not allowed to reply yet, I have added more detail to my original post.
Regards
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Thanks for the census record links, I have reviewed these previously, but I have not been able to find a birth, baptism or marriage record for either William or Mary.
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If the 1911 census return is accurate then their marriage was in about 1861 - so before the start of civil registration for RC marriages, which means you would have to search for parish records for the marriage and their baptisms.
Their ages are a little inconsistent between the 1901 and 1911 census returns, so ages and years married could be a little bit inaccurate..
If the couple were married in Westport then the RC parish to check for is Aughaval - sometimes noted as Oughavall, or 'Aughaval, Westport & Lecanvey'. Marriage records for the parish go back to the early 1820s, baptisms go back to 1845.
Shane
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Shane
Many thanks for this info, I had not realised that the Irish civil registration were not in place in 1861. I wrongly assumed it started the same time as the UK civil registrations in 1837.
I had assumed this period for the marriage, since the first child was born in 1862, so that ties in quite well. The local parish church is St Mary's I believe. This gives me something to follow up.
Many thanks
Tom
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Non-Catholic marriage registration started earlier in 1845, but RC marriage and registration of Births and Deaths started here in 1864
see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
update : I fixed a typo above - I had the wrong date for the start of non-RC marriages
Shane
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Thanks for the census record links, I have reviewed these previously, but I have not been able to find a birth, baptism or marriage record for either William or Mary.
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This might be your William Gunning
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Gunning&GSmid=47069730&GRid=64373526&
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Thanks, This is the Grave William Gunning, The Father of William was also called William and he married Kate, he was killed in a boiler explosion in Dublin in 1910 leaving Kate his wife with 3 small children. They moved back to Westport to her family home. Thanks for pointing out the photo.
Regards
Tom