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Hello everybody :)
I am the researcher of a Paranormal Research Team and I am stuck.
Last Saturday (11th of September 2010) we had an investigation at Exeter Castle, Exeter, UK. Until 2004 Exeter Castle (also known as Rougemont Castle) used to be a Court House. The whole complex dates back to the 11th cenuty and trial were held there ever since. Thousands of people have been imprisoned, punished, tortured and executed over the centuries.
We were accompanied by a guest medium on that night and she picked up upon a few spirits of convicts, people that were being hanged or transported to Australia. I am afraid, that I don't have many dates with the names, this is why I am stuck now. So here are the names and all the information we could get about them so far:
(Most of it our medium got per automatic writing, so the information is directly from the spirit itself and his/her own words)
“Jethro Talbut. Killed me dad in a fight. So hurt me and I was mad. Me ma was able to help me until he died then I got laid by the rangers. They took me to jail. I am no more alive.
I got my penance here.
I want to go to hell and know I shall be saved if I recant 1736 -? 173...?. Not sure. I was born here in the city (Exeter) died in Gail (sic) and need help to go on.
Be good to me please.
I am afraid to go – HELL.
Thanks lady.!
I am GLAD TO BE RID OF MY OWN SOD.
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Thanks Be to the GOOD SOUL WHO GAVE ME LOVE.
Will get ma and go.
Thanks Love is GOOD”
According to what our medium said about Jethro (who was sitting in one of the prison cells), he was crying for his mum, literally soiling himself because of terror. This makes me think, that he might have been still in his teens.
“Simon Caldwood of West Highcourt Exeter
I had a man killed because he hurt my girlfriend. I had a man to get him hung by the neck till gone. I had to tell them he was a man in harm to her and I had him hung till done for.
He was Saul Bander ( or Banter) of Caulstok and I had him done to.
I died and saw my love go to hell for it. Now I am gone and not aided to shift to light.
I am done to now so hold me high to go on and on I should be good to go forward. I am shamed lass shamed.
Be glad to go for love. I want my wife to hold love to. So I shall go to her now.
Be love ------------“
It seems, that Simon swore a false oath was was done for that later on.
“Myra Somer of Grandma Keller’s home.
I took a bit of land and held it to my heart. I saw my home burn and I got me a man to give me aid and he were a man to like.
I had a boy and he died by my power so I got hung out the hole of like.
So I am well. Not bad – just stupid. I am OK. Love Myra Somer Exeter.”
“Saul Bannerman of Exeter.
Saw me go down to be got in hell.
I killed a man and swung (hanged). I am free. Terror took me wise and I am no coward but I got my bull an d neck gone and i swung high. Not good end and I hung up hard took a Paine to end. I held no call to end in a way so hurtful.
Be good to all. Saul Bannerman”
“Peter Sandman of Exeter Court 2.
Died in yard then dug in soil. Saw me dead meat tossed into a deal crate then dumped into it.
I handed my deal to love – Be warned all live bodies – it’s coil to kill. Sandman is a noble line. Not bad one. All OK now. Such fume and I held me a sinner.”
“am Humphrey of Exeter. I like to annoy maids. I done a sin and got be dined for it.
Swung? Nay I got transt to Van Deemans Land. Got rid of life and got me to homeland again. So there!
I tell truth for now – there again – who know.
So all is like to like.”
I found out, that Van Diemen’s Land is now Tasmania. The name was changed in 1856, so Humphrey must have been transported there before then,so it must have been most likely in the time from 1822 – 53, when the most active transportation to Tasmania took place. Finding a single name in the records without knowing if it is a first or a surname is nearly impossible, as from 1846 onwards about 5000 convicts arrived each year.
“NATHAN COLWELL I KILLED A WHORE
SHE HELD MY LOVE AND TOOK ME IN THAT IS FACT. SHE WAS A WHORE. I KILLED HER AND I KNOW IT WAS EVIL. NO MORE TO IT. I HAVE NO CALL TO EVER HOLD HER AGAIN.
I WANT TO BE RID OF HER NOW SO HOLD MY HAND AND HELP ME TO GO ON. I SWUNG AND IT HURT AT IT TOO. LONG HAUL THEN RID OF LIFE BUT I SAW HELL IN THE HELL OF SWING – NO MORE TO IT. I WAS A SELLER OF TRIBAL GEAR LIKE SUMP AND sh*t TO AIL MEN AT AIL. YES A FALSE GOD OF APOFICRY (sic).
NO HARM MENT BUT NO HELP EITHER. SMELL ME? AYE – FALSE HERB AND FUME NO GOOD TO MEN.
SUCH A FUME. I WILL GO NOW LOVE. THANK TO YOU ALL – I SEE LOVE AGAIN. HAD MY SPEACH.
NOW I AM Free.
THANK YOU”
Nathan Colwell was a quack doctor. I reckon, that he wasn't born in Exeter, maybe didn't even live there. Quack doctors usually did a lot of traveling, mostly to avoid trouble with angry former customers.
Please help me. I'd be thankful for anything, links, historians or even research results.
Thank you,
GPS Hella
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That's interesting, but I'm a bit of a sceptic and I'm not sure that anything we could find out about these names would prove a thing. Any information that we could find could also have been looked up by a 'Psychic'.
Incidentally, I looked for Myra Somer on my two subscription packages and got no results.
Yours, with an open mind (albeit a little sceptical), Heather
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My thoughts exactly, although I did a couple of quick searches on names (which led me nowhere). Anything found by people here will be in the public domain, and if it is in the public domain, then it's going to be accessible by someone calling themselves psychic or a medium. So what exactly does it prove ?
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“am Humphrey of Exeter. I like to annoy maids. I done a sin and got be dined for it.
Swung? Nay I got transt to Van Deemans Land. Got rid of life and got me to homeland again. So there!
I tell truth for now – there again – who know.
So all is like to like.”
I don't understand why Humphrey's spirit would be hanging around in Exeter Castle if what he says is true :-\ Hmm.
Glad Nick agreed, as I felt a bit as if I was pouring cold water on the whole thing. Perhaps someone will turn up with a diary written by one of these 'spirits' that's never been published that verifies some information - then I'd be very impressed :)
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I agree with you there. I am also very skeptic about mediums, but I still think it's worth researching what Joan picked up.
The Paranormal, especially concerning ghosts, is unknown grounds for us.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe in spirits, because in all those years as an investigator I have experienced too much. I just can't say anymore, that there is no such thing as ghosts. Some things just can't be explained by natural causes. But I don't just take every little sound or breeze in the dark as a sign of the presence of a ghost. I know how to look for natural causes first, also with technical equipment.
A quick check on the names lead me as far as it did you. I am also sure that most old court records can be found in the archives, but not on the internet, but that doesn't have to say the didn't exist.
I did research on names mediums picked up before and had some nice hits.
I did find the name Humphrey mentioned in a convict's report. A guy was chained to someone called Humphrey, who died on the long walk to their destination in Van Diemen's Land. But if it was him, I can't say.
Don't ask my why Humphrey should have returned to England and how he actually managed to do so. But I DO know from countless reports about hauntings, that it seems to be possible for spirits to return back to their place of birth or death or places where they had traumatic but also nice experiences.
The reason why we are researching these names is, that we prefer to know who we are dealing with. For the medium it would be also good to have a confirmation.
Never mind, if one believes in spirits, mediumship or not, I don't think, that it really matters. According to our medium, these were real people. Fascinating was as well, that the handwriting was always significantly different with every single person she had "on the line".
As I said, anything that can be found about these people, might be another piece in the jigsaw.
so please give me a chance ;)
GPS Hella
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How many Humphreys of Exeter were transported? Not that many, should be verifiable with Australian records, but as has been said already, what we can find so could the medium.
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There is quite a bit of information around on executions (more likely to be found than on criminals in general).
http://www.exetermemories.co.uk/em/executed.php
- Exeter Castle seems to only have been used for a few early executions.
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/devon.html
- don't see any of yours.
I have seen a couple of these kind of requests over the years-- people who have gone to find out about past lives, etc-- I have never seen once one where accurate info was given (although I have seen egregious historical errors). I doubt the person in question set out to deceive-- or the information given would be that for people who were genuinely hanged/charged, since those lists are hardly difficult to find.
It's not possible to 100% prove someone didn't exist, but given the relatively serious crimes it would be likely that at least one of these people would show up (particularly "Myra", as relatively few women were actually executed over the years). There are a lot of people who have an interest in/do research into murders/murderers, the history of execution, etc.
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Thank you for the links. I've looked up the Exeter memories site already, the list they have there is only concerning certain cemeteries as far as I could see. At the moment I am going through old police and court records (the ones that are available online ::))
The links I've got so far are:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20080118063551/http://www.sfhg.org.uk/history14.html
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Exeter/Police1/ChargeBook1847-1.html
and a few others, that weren't helpful at all.
I will definitely check out the capital punishment site.
I agree, that our medium could have looked up those names before, but I doubt it. It is a matter of trust, I guess. We know her for quite a while now and she joined us recently on a private case and picked up upon a guy named Doug who hung himself in the attic. She got the address only shortly before we met. She didn't know anything about the case at all.
Apparently we did find Doug in an old newspaper article.
What is very interesting as well is, that, while my mother-in-law was in hospital for surgery she got talking to one of the nurses. At the beginning it was just general chit chat, the nurse asked about mum's family and what we were doing. Mum mentioned that we recently did a private case and also the street where it was. The nurse replied, that this was interesting, for her cousin/uncle used to live in that street and committed suicide by hanging himself in the attic. To the question what his name was, she said: "Doug."
Quite a big coincidence, if you ask me ;) especially because it is only a small street.
The name Declan and Violet weren't picked up by the medium. Also not Judge Bernard. We got those names through glass divination. ( ;D also a thing for different opinions) I assure you, that glass divination is not one of our main practices. We rather rely on our common sense and our technical equipment. But we try to keep an open mind and try out new/old things now and then, in the hope of getting better results.
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I compiled the Exeter Memories list of executions. It is not confined to certain cemeteries, but rather to all the known execution places around Exeter. Exeter was the place of execution for all of Devon's executed. The list is compiled from a mix of known executions researched by others and of all those listed in contemporary newspapers and broadsheets. I too am a complete sceptic. Incidentally, someone emailed me a broadsheet of a murder in Exminster in the 1830s - I checked to corroborate the murder and execution and could find no reference, other than the broadsheet. It would appear that it was a rip-off from another broadsheet about a murder elsewhere, and was printed merely for sales.
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I, too, am deeply sceptical.
Fascinated that these people from the past are communicating in modern English - "dad" a very 20th century word; "jail" was always "gaol"; "girlfriend" another modern term; "hung" - the word is 'hanged' and those in earlier times people would have known that - it's only recently we have got confused... there are many other anachronisms.
A little research might dig out some names, but that does not mean that someone else has done it before...
meles
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Yes I'd noticed the anachronisms too and the phrasing of many of the transcripts is very similar. It'd be interesting to have a handwriting expert compare them, to see if the letter forms are in keeping with the supposed time they were written - I'm not sure how many people in those days would have been able to write to that standard.
Is that a line of enquiry you could pursue GPS Hella? That really would add to the credibility if an expert felt they were written by different hands.
I find this all very interesting as an ancestor of mine was acquitted twice at Exeter - 9 years apart, once for larceny and and once for arson. We're not trying to give you a hard time honest! It's just us family history types love proof ;)
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Yes I'd noticed the anachronisms too and the phrasing of many of the transcripts is very similar. It'd be interesting to have a handwriting expert compare them, to see if the letter forms are in keeping with the supposed time they were written - I'm not sure how many people in those days would have been able to write to that standard.
Is that a line of enquiry you could pursue GPS Hella? That really would add to the credibility if an expert felt they were written by different hands.
I find this all very interesting as an ancestor of mine was acquitted twice at Exeter - 9 years apart, once for larceny and and once for arson. We're not trying to give you a hard time honest! It's just us family history types love proof ;)
I have to admit, although I am doing most of the research for our team, I am still a newbie in doing it. There are still a lot of things I have to learn about where to find what etc., especially because I only moved to England two years ago and, as you might have noticed, English is not my native language.
It would be definitely interesting to see if, and if yes, in which way the hand writings differ from the persons own writing.
I actually asked the medium (also thinking about the lack of education earlier centuries) what hapenned, when the person "on the other end" never learned to write. She said, that she would aid them then with her abilities, but the hand writing would always differ because of the personality of the person. ??? Well, I am not a medium myself, so I guess I don't have to know and understand everything ;)
I agree, that there are a lot of charlatans around in mediumship, but there are also some that really have the gift to either talk to spirits or see things that happened in the past.
If the anachronisms come from "translating" or because she made the whole thing up (what I don't think)... well, we might never know.
Please correct me, if I am wrong... didn't the name "dad" already exist in the 19th century? And the word jail was definitely in use then (thinking about an old newspaper article I read today).
I don't have any dates except for Jethro Talbut, so who knows when these people lived? (if they lived)
I will also have a deeper look into this forum, maybe I can find some more helpful links.
I found, that court and police records, especially the ones you can find on the internet, have gaps, people aren't mentioned and/or their names are being distorted by either lack of orthography or misunderstanding, often because the people that were send to prison couldn't write themselves.
The older the records, the worse it gets ::)
Thank you for your thoughts and some interesting ideas,
GPS Hella
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Your English is good GPS Hella, I hadn't noticed you weren't a native speaker :) I wish you luck in your research and would be interested to hear what progress you make.
Heather
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Hi GPS Hella :)
Despite being a sceptic myself, I thought I'd try to help you find some of the names you're interested in, using the records I have access to :)
First of all, I searched on the IGI (International Genealogical Index (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true)) but none of the names scored a hit - a couple of them did have matches but not anywhere near Exeter. I don't know what their coverage of Devon is like, though...
Then I looked in Tasmanian convict records for anyone named Humphrey (given name or surname). There are quite a few (more with the surname than with the given name), but none that I could see from the indexes who were convicted in Exeter. The Tasmanian State Archives has a large collection of convict records online that you could go through: http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11
It might be an idea to contact the Devon Record Office to see what records they have of trials held in Exeter.
I do have to agree with the others, though, that finding the names in the historical records will not prove that your medium was talking to them ;) :)
Good luck with your search :)
Cheers
Prue
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I, too, am deeply sceptical.
Fascinated that these people from the past are communicating in modern English - "dad" a very 20th century word;
meles
According to the OED (20 vol.) the earliest recorded usage of the word ‘dad’ is:
“?a1500 Chester Pl. (Shaks. Soc.) I. 43 Cayme. I will..Speake with my dadde and mam also..Mamme and dadd, reste you well! [Of uncertain date: the MS. is only of 1592.]”
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Hello GPS
Likewise, if this helps:
“am Humphrey of Exeter. I like to annoy maids. I done a sin and got be dined for it.
Swung? Nay I got transt to Van Deemans Land. Got rid of life and got me to homeland again. So there!
I tell truth for now – there again – who know.
So all is like to like.”[/color]
Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser - January 17, 1811
Exeter Wednesday January 16th
General quarter sessions, Monday last.
Humphrey Caddy Perriman, apprentice to Messrs Carters, convicted of stealing 20s bank note, property of his masters and sentenced to transported 7 years.
Humphrey Caddy Perryman christened June 6, 1792 at Holy Trinity, Exeter, Devon, England. Parents Richard & Ann Perryman (IGI)
Linda
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Ok, I will give it a last try.
First of all thank you for coming back to the subject and starting to be constructive.
I will check out the above links and see what I come up with.
The finding of Humphrey looks promising, it could be him, but I will see if I can find further information about his case, maybe the court record itself.
I also tried to find a list of judges of Exeter in the 19th century.
I have send an request to the Devon records office yesterday evening, so I am waiting if they come up with something.
I will keep you updated on the results.
Cheers,
GPS Hella
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GPS Hella. I do hope you find the information you seek.
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I hate to add myself to the sceptics as I really would like to have an open mind, but OK is definitely a term that only came into general usage in England around WW2. According to the Oxford English Dictionary it began life in America in the 1840s and the first recording of it in the UK was in 1900.
Carole
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I hate to add myself to the sceptics as I really would like to have an open mind, but OK is definitely a term that only came into general usage in England around WW2. According to the Oxford English Dictionary it began life in America in the 1840s and the first recording of it in the UK was in 1900.
Carole
If one looks back a few centuries and sees the original words, surnames, etc., it can be agreed that the human race has eventually shortened most placenames, surnames and phrases. I can't remember the actual words but "goodbye" originated from a phrase such as this: God go with thee
Being from the north I'm accustomed to saying "aye" when I agree with something thus can visualize okay might have had its origins earlier than 1840.
Here are a few earlier expressions from which the word okay might have sprung from:
Scots expression och aye, the Greek ola kala ('it is good'), the Choctaw Indian oke or okeh ('it is so'), the French aux Cayes ('from Cayes', a port in Haiti with a reputation for good rum) or au quai ('to the quay', as supposedly used by French-speaking dockers
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I have not been a sceptic to the unexplainable for the last decade.
I too have searched but haven't been able to find any information online, which is not such a bad thing as there are more hidden documents in the archives than the few that are indexed and available online. Knowing that dialects can have an effect on spelling I also searched quite a few archives using a proliferation of wildcards and keywords. If Nathaniel Colwell were Irish for example and used phonetic sounds to incorrectly spell the surname, then it could actually have been Calwell.
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I can't remember the actual words but "goodbye" originated from a phrase such as this: God go with thee
True - it was from God Be With You
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I was once totally sceptical until I had the following experience back in the 1970s. During a period of displacement at work due to redundancy I was used as a census taker on local train services. One November evening I was working on the 5.10p.m train from Boston to Doncaster, this train was usually almost empty between Boston and Sleaford and then became very busy from there to Lincoln, after which it emptied again. At Heckington a man in dark clothing joined the train by the front passenger door and turned left into the first class compartment. I called to the guard that I would visit him, and if he needed a ticket would tell the guard. The door to the compartment was in my view all the time, as was the only other exit from the first class section, into the driver's compartment, this door was locked. I entered the compartment asked to see the passenger's ticket, and was amazed and shaken to find the compartment empty. I have never had a satisfactory reason for this, and it set me wondering. I now believe that obviously not every phenomenon is known to or explanable by modern science, perhaps some things never will be.
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Despite the fact that everyone is sceptical (as indeed I am!) - this thread had certainly stimulated a few follicles!
Bill
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Maybe because we're not as sure of ourselves as we like to think.
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True, it is not proven, yet, but that is one of the things we also include in our research. You've got to start somewhere.
Real paranormal research doesn't just mean investigating a location, explaining things with natural or paranormal causes and then just leave it. Our way of research also contains collecting investigation reports, compare results etc. which could possibly lead to answers but also to more questions. Should we not be able to find an answer, we send off the material to different experts (universities, study centers etc).
I have not been a sceptic to the unexplainable for the last decade.
I too have searched but haven't been able to find any information online, which is not such a bad thing as there are more hidden documents in the archives than the few that are indexed and available online. Knowing that dialects can have an effect on spelling I also searched quite a few archives using a proliferation of wildcards and keywords. If Nathaniel Colwell were Irish for example and used phonetic sounds to incorrectly spell the surname, then it could actually have been Calwell.
It could be... but so far I didn't even find a Nathan, yet. There were several Jonathan's, but none of their surnames was close enough to say it could have been him.
My time for writing the research report is running out, mainly because any findings would be a personal confirmation for the medium, but we cannot take them as a proof that would be recognized as such.
It seems to be almost impossible to find anything online (didn't get a chance to check out all the links yet). I hope that I will get a reply from the Devon Records Office soon.
I now believe that obviously not every phenomenon is known to or explanable by modern science, perhaps some things never will be.
I absolutely agree with you.
Technology and techniques are permanently improving, so who knows, maybe we will be able to answer a few questions in the future. But until then every little helps. The technically more skilled teams are permanently working on the development of new equipment, scientists are making new discoveries every day... so who knows what comes next.
Your experience sounds familiar to me. I've read several reports before, that were just like yours. It could be, that you might have turned around for a few seconds, enough time maybe for the man to go somewhere else. But I wasn't there, so I can't say, can I?
What is for sure is, that there are definitely more things between heaven and earth, than we know about.
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I thought of that, but it was impossible. The first class compartment had a door visib le the length of the railcar which he had to open to go into, then close. It was in my view the whole time, he did not have time to open and close the door again, had he done so I would have tripped over him. The railcar was of a type that was 63ft 5inches in length. I was sitting some 30 feet from the door he opened.
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Interesting thread! I'm a "skeptical believer" :P ;D T/1267
Was Nathaniel actually a doctor or just someone who sold bogus elixirs? There were "Dr. Colwell" products sold 19th century in the U.S. but not sure where they were actually made. Colwell's Egyptian Oil had opiates in it...Eek
http://www.bottlebooks.com/dangerou.htm
Anyway, there is also a "Doctor" Colwell mentioned here...did you say he was out of county, but....but how to find out what the forename was?
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=021-t_1&cid=-1#-1
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Oh, Yeah...Just remembered, this probably isn't far enough back :P
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Interesting thread! I'm a "skeptical believer" :P ;D T/1267
Was Nathaniel actually a doctor or just someone who sold bogus elixirs? There were "Dr. Colwell" products sold 19th century in the U.S. but not sure where they were actually made. Colwell's Egyptian Oil had opiates in it...Eek
http://www.bottlebooks.com/dangerou.htm
Anyway, there is also a "Doctor" Colwell mentioned here...did you say he was out of county, but....but how to find out what the forename was?
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=021-t_1&cid=-1#-1
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Oh, Yeah...Just remembered, this probably isn't far enough back :P
Oh, that is interesting! According to the automatic writing he sold bogus elixirs.
"I WAS A SELLER OF TRIBAL GEAR LIKE SUMP AND sh*t TO AIL MEN AT AIL. YES A FALSE GOD OF APOFICRY (sic).
NO HARM MENT BUT NO HELP EITHER. (this is, when we smelt a musty, old, partially rotten scent and mentioned it) SMELL ME? AYE – FALSE HERB AND FUME NO GOOD TO MEN."
The medium said, that he was some sort of quack doctor.
He was hung because he killed a woman, not for selling bad medicine. Quack doctors used to travel a lot.
But on the other hand, Colwell isn't such a rare name.
Will try to find out more.
At what year did you find that doctor at the national archives site, please?
Thank you for the findings.
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Thanks to a few links of the more constructive posts, I was able to narrow down my search for Humphrey.
I've only got 4 men left, all of them being transported to Tasmania between 1822 and 1836.
I have written an e-mail to the Tasmanian archives.
Have a nice day :)
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If anyone wants to check criminal records for Devon, here are two good sources:
Devon Record Office:
Ref No 6100-0
Devonshire Death Sentences and Executions 1735-1804
(Transcript of list of criminals sentenced to death at Devon Assizes, 1735-1804, including details of crime and eventual fate of criminal)
Ancestry.co.uk :
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
There appears to be a complete (and searchable) collection for Devon from 1805 - 1892. These are the original records and can be seen in images as pages of the books in which they were recorded. They show the name, where and when they were tried, the crime and the outcomes, which include aquittal, imprisonment, transportation and execution.
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Thank you, Darwin :)
I've checked the sites there, that were new to me, also to no avail :(
I am still waiting for answers to a few requests I've send ... the Tasmanian archive replied, that they are on holidays at the moment ;D
I doubt, that I will find much more information, so my report about the medium's findings will probably be without research results.... which is bugging me :-\ , although the results wouldn't have counted as proof in anyway.
I just feel sorry for the medium... she is a lovely person and it would have been nice to be able to give her some confirmation.
Should any of the requests, that I've send, show results, I will update you, of course.
Thank you all for your help in this case. :)
GPS Hella
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Thanks to a few links of the more constructive posts, I was able to narrow down my search for Humphrey.
I've only got 4 men left, all of them being transported to Tasmania between 1822 and 1836.
I have written an e-mail to the Tasmanian archives.
Hi Hella :)
You can view the convicts' records yourself, online, as they have all been digitised - just go to the link I gave earlier in the thread: http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11
Cheers
Prue
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Hi Prue,
Yes, I've checked that link and found the 4 Humphrey's that could be a possible match. I also mailed them for possible further information, but will have to be patient, because they are on holidays at the moment.
Cheers,
Hella