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Title: Patten Makers
Post by: jakky on Saturday 11 September 10 14:44 BST (UK)

 Hi,

 I think that  Pattens are a sort of flat shoe, backless, and with a iron ring on the bottom, presumably to keep out of the mud, or have I thought wrong?

Has anyone any idea for what period  of time they were made or,  when they stopped being made.

Thanks,Jakky.

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 11 September 10 14:55 BST (UK)

For illustrations of Pattens see THE HISTORY OF YOUR SHOES

http://tinyurl.com/6m5aq

Stan

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 11 September 10 14:56 BST (UK)

Patten- a. Any of various kinds of thick-soled footwear; esp. (in pl.) wooden clogs which are slipped on the feet without fastening, or raised platform-type shoes.
 b. A kind of overshoe worn to raise an ordinary shoe above wet or muddy ground, consisting (from the 17th cent.) of a thick wooden sole mounted on an oval iron ring or similar base, and secured to the foot by a leather loop passing around the instep. Usu. in pl. Now hist.
OEDictionary


Stan

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: Siamese Girl on Saturday 11 September 10 16:24 BST (UK)

When was this? It's not a spelling mistake for pattern is it? The more obvious trade of patte(r)n maker in the last 200 odd years would be someone who makes a mould for castings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_(casting)

Carole

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: stanmapstone on Saturday 11 September 10 16:40 BST (UK)

There are twelve different types of Pattern Maker in "A Dictionary of Occupational Terms"

Stan

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: jakky on Monday 13 September 10 12:25 BST (UK)

Thank you all,
this was around 1850ish. in Wigan.It is spelt Patten.  I can now perhaps look up the history of them, just wondered how long they had been in circulation,

Thanks again

Jakky

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 13 September 10 12:49 BST (UK)

We have ledgers from the family blacksmithing business from the 1820s.
There are many references to making pattens, including one for 'pair of pattens for Susannah' - his wife  ;D

Pat ...

Coo Stan!  Some posh looking pattens on that link you gave us  8)

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: leighton on Monday 13 September 10 15:34 BST (UK)

Hello jakky,

I have a branch of my family from Carlisle who were described as Clog and Patten Makers. They were mentioned in various Trade Directories from 1829 and also in the census records until 1861.

Perhaps a patten was a cheaper type of clog.

leighton

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 13 September 10 16:18 BST (UK)

I think it was mainly the metal curved pieces under the wooden foot base which distinguished the patten, they could be worn alone, or more often worn under shoes/boots in muddy areas.

Pat ...

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: jakky on Wednesday 15 September 10 15:39 BST (UK)

Hi
The amount of rain we are getting in Gorleston perhaps I should carry on the family trade...

Jakky

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: jimmymac on Monday 27 September 10 16:25 BST (UK)

My experience fits with Carole's suggestion. The patte(r)n makers I have come across have been in the Black Country and connected with engineering e.g. 1901 census, West Bromwich, William Garness, pattern maker and millwright. Ten years previously, age 15, he had been an engine fitter.

Title: Re: Patten Makers
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 27 September 10 17:08 BST (UK)

Pattern makers certainly worked in engineering.

Patten makers tended to be blacksmiths and shoemakers.

Pat ...