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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: peterstarling on Friday 10 September 10 19:09 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know where I can get access to the 1982-88 death notices published in The Times newspaper. I've tried my local libary, local archives and The Times website with no success. I would like to see the information given for Hugh Peter Laurence who died October 1987.
Regards, Peter
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The Times Digital Archive is only from 1785 to 1985, and is available from subscribing libraries.
Stan
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Thanks for responding Stan. I'm just following up from results on ancestory.co.uk. They refer to this database http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8791 but I can't find it?
Peter
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Hi Peter,
I was not aware of this database :(
Rev Hugh Peter Laurence Age 85 Birth 1902 Death 16 Oct 1987
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09rf/
Stan
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Thanks Stan, but what I really need is access to the full announcment that might give more family details
Peter
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How about asking The Times what is going on,? this looks interesting, 24/7 online help (never used it though)
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/article2582551.ece?CMP=INTtt19
Dawn
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The full announcement is not given in Ancestry.
Stan
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The Times archive
Your FREE archive search
Searching the archive is free. Our database contains articles from 1985.
http://www.newsint-archive.co.uk/pages/free.asp
Stan
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Or if that doesn't work, another solution may be to visit the British Library - Newspaper collection at Colindale in NW London.
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Many thanks for the tip(s)!
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Hi Peter
I am researching WW2 POW camp Oflag 12B. The Padre at that camp was Hugh Peter Laurence. Is this the same person?
I would appreciate being able to communicate with his decendants if this is the case.
Regards
Ian
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Hi Ian and welcome to Rootschat...Peter hasn't been online since February 2016..when you have posted 3 messages you will be able to send him a PM ( Personal Message) you can do this by clicking on the text icon beneath his name.
Good Luck.
Carol
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One more would do Carol, apparently it does work after you've posted 2 messages. ;)
Sandra
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Hi Peter
I am researching WW2 POW camp Oflag 12B. The Padre at that camp was Hugh Peter Laurence. Is this the same person?
I would appreciate being able to communicate with his decendants if this is the case.
Regards
Ian
Could well be! I'll see what I can find out for you over the weekend.
Peter
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Hi Peter
Welcome back, and since you posted this way back in 2010, The Times Archive through your library card should be available upto 2010 now.
A notice was placed on 20th October 1987.
Dawn
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Hi Peter
Welcome back, and since you posted this way back in 2010, The Times Archive through your library card should be available upto 2010 now.
A notice was placed on 20th October 1987.
Dawn
Thanks Dawn. Do you have a link for that please.
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I used my library card so any link I post won't work but the notice is on page 15 of issue 62904 of 20 October 1987
If you access the Times Archive with your libray card and do an advanced search, look for Laurence on 20 October 1987 and you get 3 results. Select the one in Births Marriages Deaths
I initially did a more widespread search and got a lot of hits I had to narrow down to find the exact entry. The search is quite picky and wont find the entry if you search for his full name in the sequence Hugh Peter Laurence.
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Hi Peter,
I have access to the Times archive. If you haven't got it already; I can help you get it. However, I am not sure if I would be aloud to post it on here? Maybe a moderator can inform me as I know you can't post the 1911 Census and 1939 Register.
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Hi Clarkey
referring back to the beginning of the topic, Peter has access to the Times Archive with his library card so should be able to find the entry now. At the time of the original post the Times online only went upto the 1980's if I remember correctly.
You are welcome to post a transcription.
Posting an image from the Times site will break the copyright rules here and will be removed.
Dawn
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Hi Clarkey
referring back to the beginning of the topic, Peter has access to the Times Archive with his library card so should be able to find the entry now. At the time of the original post the Times online only went upto the 1980's if I remember correctly.
You are welcome to post a transcription.
Posting an image from the Times site will break the copyright rules here and will be removed.
Dawn
Ok, thank you Dawn.
Here's the transcription as it may help you Peter, or any other relatives.
Laurence - On 16th October, 1987.
Cannon Hugh Peter, aged 85 years.
C/O Miss Frances Evison,
Thimbleby, near Horncastle.
Funeral Service at St. Mary's
Church, Horncastle on Thursday
22nd October at 12:00 noon any
enquiries to M. England Funeral
Director's. 06582 3385.
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Oh, thank you. That's really helpful everybody :)
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Oh, thank you. That's really helpful everybody :)
You're welcome!
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It was new information, (to me,) that libraries subscribe to The Times Digital Archive, so today I made an enquiry at my local library in beautiful Torbay, Devon.
I was told that the decision was taken very recently to allow the licence to lapse at the end of this financial year because it costs several thousand pounds, and the public use it so rarely the cost is not warranted. :'(
I shall search it before the end of March, before the opportunity disappears. Be warned.......
But I do wonder, what else might be available to search at the library of which I am completely unaware?
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If you're asking about your local Torbay library service then according to their website, not much sadly
http://www.torbay.gov.uk/libraries/local-studies/http://www.torbay.gov.uk/libraries/local-studies/
Devon library services has a bit more
http://www.devon.gov.uk/index/cultureheritage/libraries/info/onlinereference.htm
you might have to ask if this leaflet is upto date
http://www.devon.gov.uk/fs5_-_information_from_your_library_service.pdf
Local studies at Exeter?
https://www.devon.gov.uk/localstudies
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Thanks Dawn.
There is a marvellous local studies library at Torquay which has lots of film and fiche. That is where I did the bulk of my early family history research before it was "all" on-line. Years ago one of the staff started an index of people, but I don't know how that progressed..... it might be worth asking if it still exists.
The local studies library at Exeter was really big and holds interest for much of South Devon I know. It has now been moved from the centre of Exeter to the Records Office building at Sowton.
So many people are not aware that Ancestry is available free at the library...... well obviously it won't get used if people don't know it is there!