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Title: IRISH OVERSEAS
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 12 February 06 22:41 GMT (UK)
Have a look through this list.
It would be interesting to know if any Rootschatters have some of the people listed here in their family tree.

Famous Irish Americans
http://www.aoh61.com/history/ir_american.htm (http://www.aoh61.com/history/ir_american.htm)
Title: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland 1860-1862
Post by: magsbutler on Sunday 26 February 06 12:17 GMT (UK)
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/irishpoor1860-62.htm (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/irishpoor1860-62.htm)

This is such an interesting site - definitely worth a look. Although it doesn't give addresses, there are instances of whole families moving back to Ireland, so in absence of any censuses, it could give someone a clearer picture of where their ancestors were and what they were doing.
(It didn't have mention of my Baileys, but never mind...)
Cheers,
Mags

Title: Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
Post by: heywood on Sunday 26 February 06 22:03 GMT (UK)
Mags,
That is such a sad site. It is a real insight into the conditions of the day - and it was such a tiny part of the whole picture - very interesting as you say and perhaps helpful to some searches.
Thanks
Heywood
Title: Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
Post by: magsbutler on Sunday 26 February 06 22:18 GMT (UK)

I found this purely by chance - glad you found it interesting too. So sad though, as  you say.
I'd never really considered this 'reverse migration' between Ireland and England  happening in large numbers before; but certainly a few of my Irish cousins have moved between the two countries (although none have actually been thrown out of England -yet!)

Cheers.
Mags
Title: Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
Post by: heywood on Sunday 26 February 06 22:43 GMT (UK)
Well I knew it existed with removal orders  for English migrants - I found a mother and sons who came from Suffolk in 1836 to Lancashire were 'returned'- They were then found in 1841 back in Suffolk! I am sad to say my history and poitical knowledge lets me down - vaguely remember The Poor Law etc (will study all this when I retire!)
I went to hear an interesting talk at a local FHS about the Suffolk migrants and it was mentioned then that the Irish migrants were just too much for Liverpool to deal with in terms of monetary support- you will probably know.
I know when I was looking through baptismal records in Liverpool - 1850-60 - it brought it home to me a bit then - the sheer numbers of baptisms; the scrawly writing of the priests and the lack of regular spelling - tough!
Thanks for all your interesting posts.
Heywood
Title: Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
Post by: Jillie42 on Monday 06 March 06 22:31 GMT (UK)
Does anybody know if 1860-62 were the only years where the poor Irish were deported? I know my Harringtons leave England between 1855 and 59 and are back in the country by 1871. I always assumed this was voluntary but reading the above web site I wonder if they were deported?
Title: Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
Post by: goggy on Tuesday 07 March 06 02:18 GMT (UK)
Very sad indeed,found a couple of my'name',children,to a Dublin convent.No mention of parent's,I wondered about the rellies I knew were around at the time.
How could they do that??
                Goggy. :(
Title: Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
Post by: tony h on Friday 31 March 06 15:48 BST (UK)
I wonder if the large numbers in 1861 were anything to do with the American Civil War and the disruption in the cotton trade that led to famine in parts of north-west england

Tony
Title: IRISH OVERSEAS
Post by: chrissy on Wednesday 18 October 06 03:59 BST (UK)
Morning all
As I was born in Ballarat,I consider it my duty to provide home historical and political items that may interest our rootschatters

Attitudes towards Irish Immigration by Kerry Edwards new link Nov 2014
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e85 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e85)

The Gold Rush of California by Rev J Orr new link Nov 2014
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e86 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e86)

Emmigration to Australia
http://www.ironbarkresources.com (http://www.ironbarkresources.com)

Emigration in Ennistymon Workhouse
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e87 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e87)
   
    I hope  you find this interesting reading.........
            Cheers from chrissy. 
Title: Re: Historical and Political Attitudes to Irish in Australia..Ballarat Area
Post by: chrissy on Wednesday 18 October 06 04:29 BST (UK)
 Another good link........
  www.hawkesburyhistory.org.au/articles/Battle_of_Vinegar.html
                ................................     cheers.
Title: IRISH OVERSEAS
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 21 November 06 21:31 GMT (UK)
 A list of the Executions of Irish in England  (http://www.ivanlea.net/sub_pages/executions.htm) from 1606. This list is extracted from the Internet extraction of the publication 'Haydn's Dictionary of Dates' published in London in 1895. The name's are as published, with forenames where found. The date is in reference to the day of execution. A reason for execution is noted if known and the last place of reference is the place of the trial. Also noted are the names of the victims, where known.
Title: Australian Monument Lists Four Hundred Names
Post by: gmarkdonald on Monday 05 April 10 12:54 BST (UK)
Irish Famine Memorial in Sydney
http://www.irishfaminememorial.org (http://www.irishfaminememorial.org)