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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: Erincyprus on Tuesday 07 September 10 15:02 BST (UK)
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Trying to find details on the Marriage and so on of Robert James Cregan showing on 1911 census living in Queensland Ballyvoloon married to Mary Ann with six children. Robert born in Belfast was Chief Signalman Royal Navy aged 38 years.
Navy Number 150879.
Any info appreciated in advance.
Erin
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Trying to find details on the Marriage and so on of Robert James Cregan showing on 1911 census living in Queensland Ballyvoloon .....
It's actually Ballyvoloon townland, in the electoral district of Queenstown - now called Cobh.
Mary Anne and the children are all born in Co. Cork so that looks like the best place to search for a marriage.
This looks like a good match from the BMD Index :
Name: Robert James Cregan
Registration District: Cork
Event Type: Marriage
Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1901
volume Number: 5 / page : 137
here's a link for reference : Cregan Family 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Queenstown_No__2_Urban/Ballyvoloon__part_of__Donelan_Terrace_/405702/)
Shane
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Thank you so much Shane appreciate it I will be able to move forward now. His Brother Daniel was Superintendant of Antrim Coast Guard. Seems they were all Naval Men.
Cheer's Erin
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I guess you have seen the Naval Record of Robert James Cregan
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6888734&queryType=1&resultcount=1
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I have seen it earlier today seaweed and printed it off. I will send for the Service records of Robert and his two Brothers on of which was Superintendant of Glenarm Coast Guard Station.
The other Daniel was the Longest Serving Member of The Merchant Navy and was awarded The British Empire Medal at Buckingham Palace. All born in Co Down Ballymacarret.
Erin
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Found some MN records For Daniel Cregan born 05/March/1870.
I don't know if this is your man. If not, have you a DOB?
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Hello seaweed yes that is him he was awarded the Empire Medal around 1945 ish.
Erin
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Hi guys, would you know where I could get a death record of some one in the navy. Think he may have died in WW1. my great grand uncle. He is mentioned in the site ye were talking about.
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Groni if N. Ireland. You could also check out the War Graves if he died during the war. Post his details and I am sure some Forum Members will help you in your search.
They are a really kind Bunch on this site :)
Erin
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GRONI (General Register Office of Northern Ireland) is for Northern Ireland certificates (during WWI Ireland was one country and the present Northern Ireland did not exist).
Where did the person die? (unlikely to be in Ireland if WWI death)
See www.cwgc.org for Commonwealth War Graves Commission website.
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Thanks Erin and Agha, he was Richard Deasy born 1873/4. He was always said to be lost at sea. He is not mentioned in 1901/11 Irish cencus. History isn't great but I checked up 1911 free info in UK and they had a listing. So he must have been alive then. I reckon he was killed at sea during WW1.
There is also a Roger Deasy from Roberts Cove listed in the site above.
Think this could be his fathers 1st cousin, as Richards father is also Roger.
There is also a (Richard/ Roger) Aiden Deasy which must be a 2nd cousin to Top Richard- not mentioned in the site above but mentioned in the 1911 Iris cencus.
The cousins Roger and Aiden were also in Navy as listed in cencus as retired naval pensioners.
Sorry for the confusion. Going back further there are Richards and Rogers and their descendants are aslo Richards and Rogers. I'd have more luck panning for gold in my back garden! Cheers Guys.
Ps do you think this post will be the new she sells sea shells by the sea shore, but the shells that she sell....LOL
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I should also have mentioneed that cousins to Richard- Roger and Aiden were I think father and son, as father Rogers' kids are listed as born in Co Wexford, and Aiden in 1911 is also born in Wexford- by which stage Roger has passed away.
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Hello seaweed yes that is him he was awarded the Empire Medal around 1945 ish.
Erin
See http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=cregan&srch_forename=&srch_identityno=&submit=Search
You should be able to get a copy of the original including photograph from
http://www.southampton.gov.uk/s-leisure/artsheritage/history/archives/collections/merhantseamen/centralindex.aspx
As the photographs are small ask for a copy 50% larger it should cost around £20 all in. Be sure to mention his Dis A number.
There may be crew lists at other archives for all of the ships mentioned but it would appear he left the sea in 1921 just ask Southampton if he has any records after 1921. I can find no WW2 MN records for him.
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God Bless your sealegs Seaweed. This is so exciting. There's been nearly four generations talking about this man, it was a mystery. And an actual photo too. 1st bit of concrete documentation I've got since I've started searching nearly two years ago. Thanks from the whole family. Cheers Din
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Hello seaweed yes that is him he was awarded the Empire Medal around 1945 ish.
Erin
See http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=cregan&srch_forename=&srch_identityno=&submit=Search
You should be able to get a copy of the original including photograph from
http://www.southampton.gov.uk/s-leisure/artsheritage/history/archives/collections/merhantseamen/centralindex.aspx
As the photographs are small ask for a copy 50% larger it should cost around £20 all in. Be sure to mention his Dis A number.
There may be crew lists at other archives for all of the ships mentioned but it would appear he left the sea in 1921 just ask Southampton if he has any records after 1921. I can find no WW2 MN records for him.
Thank you so much seaweed this is very kind of you and please accept my grateful thanks,
Erin
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Hi Seaweed a man did a search for me and it looks like there was 2 Richard Deasy:
DOB 1974 from Co. Cork in Merchant Navy
DOB 1973 from Co. Cork in Royal Navy
Could it be the same man?
Dincur
There was a Richard Deasy aged 51 (Dob circa 1874) with 35 years sea service recorded as being a Pumpman aboard the “Olna” which arrived in Boston 13th July 1925 having sailed from London he signed on in Tilbury 4th June 1925
also royal Navy there is also a Richard Deasy with a DoB 1873
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/d...esultcount =1
Ray
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God Bless your sealegs Seaweed. This is so exciting. There's been nearly four generations talking about this man, it was a mystery. And an actual photo too. 1st bit of concrete documentation I've got since I've started searching nearly two years ago. Thanks from the whole family. Cheers Din
I can understand your elation and your enthusiasm but take it from me, if you wish to pursue this exercise to a positive conclusion, just slow down a little and look for facts.
You ask in a further post.
A man did a search for me and it looks like there was 2 Richard Deasy:
DOB 1974 from Co. Cork in Merchant Navy
DOB 1973 from Co. Cork in Royal Navy Could it be the same man?
In my opinion it is the same man. See DOB. To prove it , you need to obtain the following records.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6969637&queryType=1&resultcount=1
(Fireman) Identity No.467730.
Born: 04 Sep 1873, Cork, Co. Cork,
(Eastern Telegraph (cable vessel))
01 Feb 1921 John Pender, No:112729, of London
(Eastern Telegraph (cable vessel))
01 Sep 1921 Carlow Castle, No:139199, (Union-Castl
Mail)
Irishmariners.ie
Go to
http://www.southampton.gov.uk/s-leisure/artsheritage/history/archives/collections/merhantseamen/centralindex.aspx
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Thanks Seaweed. Can see where you are coming from now. Will get back to you in a few weeks with the answers. South Hampton are doing renovations in the buildings and aren't answering any searches for another while. Talk soon. Thanks Din.
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23/05/11 Hi Erin,
Just wondering if you have been successful in finding the death record of Robert James Cregan? If you're still researching, pls let me know, i'm a relative, brgds Zaidah
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I have sent you my email address in a reply to you but here it is again
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Got some rellies for you Zaidah,
Erin
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