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Title: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: jpnewt75 on Tuesday 07 September 10 13:23 BST (UK)
Hi I noticed the kind offer to lookup a name in the St. Helens absent voters list.

I'd appreciate a ,lookup for a Francis Bibby, thanks very much in advance.

John
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Tuesday 07 September 10 14:51 BST (UK)
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Migky  ;)
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Tuesday 07 September 10 15:11 BST (UK)
This is his parants and his sister May Bibby 1901 census at the same address.
Francis Bibby 26
Ellen Bibby 28
May Bibby 1
 
Class: RG13; Piece: 3525; Folio: 198; Page: 57.

So you know that is a good address for the whole family 1911.

Ellen Cundliffe married Francis Bibby Dec 1/4 1895 Prescot ( ST Helens)

I could see no service papers for Francis Bibby Jr, did his brother William join up?
Migky  ;)
 
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby
Post by: jpnewt75 on Tuesday 07 September 10 15:26 BST (UK)
Thank you very much Mr Migky.  Just been on the phone to my dad, and he's really pleased that you've found that information.  He was positive Francis was in the Lancashire Fusiliers.

Have done a search for his service records in the past on Ancestry but nothing showed up, when I saw your kind offer I thought perhaps there's a chance to find his medal card from that information as my dad remembers his grandad (Francis's son) showing him a few medals.

Just been having a look at the medal card on Ancestry, there's something that says "SW B List K/6Y3/2" alongside mentions for the 15 Star, Victory and British, so not sure what that refers to?

William died young so didn't serve, but he had another brother called James born 1870 who did.  Yes, definitely the right family, thanks again so much.
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Tuesday 07 September 10 15:36 BST (UK)
Hi John, you can either start a new post on the armed forces board (WW1) asking for help Interpreting a medal index card or have a look at this site, which might help you?

Click here to start a new thread WW1 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,397.0.html)

Click  here for help on medal cards (http://www.1914-1918.net/grandad/mic.htm)

By the way i think he may have been injured out of the army as it shows he was a SWB ( Silver war badge )  The lads & lass's should help you more on this and where to look for war diaries for him and his SWB on the armed forces boards or if you like on the great war forum.

The great war forum (http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?act=idx)



Migky  ;)
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Tuesday 07 September 10 15:45 BST (UK)
This might be conected to your Bibby's and maybe not?
On FindMyPast site has:
British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Francis Bibby born 1841 Blackburn, Lancashire

I also see Bibby is common in ST.Helens on the AVL.

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: jvy20 on Tuesday 07 September 10 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi,

Marriage of Francis Bibby and Ellen Cundliffe 21 Dec 1895 at Parr St Peter's

Regards

John
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: jpnewt75 on Tuesday 07 September 10 15:58 BST (UK)
Thanks, I have more things to look up now to find out more about those medals etc  ;D

No, I don't believe they're linked Mr Migky.  All the Bibbys i've found so far have all been born and died in the St. Helens area.  Got them back to the 1840s, the name should have actually been Owen to be honest with you, as the earliest Bibby I have was born to the widow of a Bibby who had a thing with a lodger called Owen for some time in the 1840s after her husband died.  Interesting stuff though isn't it.  :)

Thanks jvy20 I have the marriage, very kind of you though.

All the best
John

Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: SBib on Thursday 23 June 11 17:29 BST (UK)
Hi John,
Are you sure that William Owen Bibby was illegitimate? My source tells me that they have the birth cert which shows his parents as Jonathan Bibby and Ruth Glover.
Steve
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: jpnewt75 on Saturday 25 June 11 10:49 BST (UK)
Hi John,
Are you sure that William Owen Bibby was illegitimate? My source tells me that they have the birth cert which shows his parents as Jonathan Bibby and Ruth Glover.
Steve

Sorry Steve but your source is wrong.  The birth certificate only lists Ruth.  On William's 1st marriage "William BIBBY" is listed as the father, at his 2nd marriage "William OWEN" is listed.  William Owen was his father, Jonathan Bibby had died.

Best wishes
Title: Re: St. Helens absent voters lookup - Bibby Completed many thanks
Post by: SBib on Saturday 25 June 11 15:13 BST (UK)
Thanks for the correction John. That makes more sense.