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Title: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Tuesday 07 September 10 03:55 BST (UK)
Hi.
1901 census , I am looking for a Elizabeth Sussums bn 1861 Rockland all saints, possibly with husband Willie Sussums.
Living in the Wayland area, maybe Carbrooke or Caston, .

I do have Elizabeths former name etc. and she married in 1891.


Thanks...
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 07 September 10 05:18 BST (UK)
Hi does this look any good:-

William SUSSAMS 43 b Carbrooke
Elizabeth 39 b Carbrooke
Charles  14 b Caston
John 12 b Caston
George 9 b Scoulton
Harold 7 b Scoulton
Kate 4 b Scoulton
Bertie 3 b Scoulton
Beatrice 2 wks b Scoulton

Residing at Golden Corner Cottage Rocklands Scoulton.

Census Ref RG13/1804/174/8

Keyboard86
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Tuesday 07 September 10 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi Keyboard, Thanks for the details.
At this point i don't think this is them, age is close, but the first child is born 1887.
My Elizabeth Fincham bn Rockland all saints 1861,  married one of two people.
Willie Sussums, or James Groom june qtr 1891, i went for Sussums as i was told some yrs ago there was a connection..

1881 shows a Willie Sussums bn 1867  and living Carbrooke. which i think is my man.....
There is also a William Sussums bn 1858 Carbooke living Caston, i beleive this is your below findings. but not my man..

I have checked marriages for 1891 Carbrooke & Rockland all Saints but cannot find them.

regards
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Holly Golightly on Tuesday 07 September 10 17:59 BST (UK)
Hi,

Elizabeth must have married James Groom.

The William Sussums born 1867 is married to Harriett on the 1901. With a mother in law Elizabeth Linstead.

The other name on the page is Harriett Louisa Linstead which that 1901 census confirms married William Sussums.

Holly
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Tuesday 07 September 10 22:18 BST (UK)
Thanks Holly, it just shows that one can't always listern to hear say in the family..

Well at least thats sorted that, i now have to find them in 1901..

best regards


Hi,

Elizabeth must have married James Groom.

The William Sussums born 1867 is married to Harriett on the 1901. With a mother in law Elizabeth Linstead.

The other name on the page is Harriett Louisa Linstead which that 1901 census confirms married William Sussums.

Holly
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Wednesday 08 September 10 00:25 BST (UK)
Just discovered that Elizabeth Groom died in 1894 age 33.now in search of her husband James Groom 1901.
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Holly Golightly on Wednesday 08 September 10 12:44 BST (UK)
Okay there are no widow James Groom's in 1901 census. However there is this one.
James Groom Head 44 Mar b-Rockland St Peter Farmer
Mary Groom Wife 34 Mar b-Scole
Ernest Groom Son 8 b-Rockland St Peter
Daisy Groom Daur 7 b-Rockland St Peter
Reginald Groom Son 4 b-Rockland St Peter
Arthur Groom Son 3 b-Rockland St Peter
Class:RG13 Piece:1868 Folio:72 Page:2

Daisy was born the same year as Elizabeth died and there is a gap to Reginald b-1897. There is a marriage for a James Groom Jun Qtr 1896 Wayland. 4b 505. to a Mary Foreman. (I matched up the other couple on the page using the census)

I had a look in the baptisms of Rockland St Peter but there are no Grooms. What do you think?

Holly
PS: Two households up are a Thomas and Sussana Fincham. Any chance they are connected?
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Holly Golightly on Wednesday 08 September 10 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi again,

Don't know if you have it:
From Rockland St Peter's Burials:
Elizabeth Groom Abode: Rockland Saints Age: 33 years Buried: Jan 19th 1894.
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Wednesday 08 September 10 13:28 BST (UK)
Hi.

Thank you for your findings, another member has just set me details of the same, so yes this is mine..It is interesting to see that Daisy was bn the same yr as Elizabeths death, perhaps elizabeth died in child birth. I have photographed Elizabeths grave..
wierd there are no  Grooms in the registers as being baptised as it does state bn there, perhaps they were bap at nr by Rockland all saints will check on that one later...
Yes Thomas and susannah Fincham are related to Elizabeth.Elizabeths father was brother to Thomas.., have found all details on that family..

I don't seem to be able to find which parish they married within Wayland.

Kind regards..


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Okay there are no widow James Groom's in 1901 census. However there is this one.
James Groom Head 44 Mar b-Rockland St Peter Farmer
Mary Groom Wife 34 Mar b-Scole
Ernest Groom Son 8 b-Rockland St Peter
Daisy Groom Daur 7 b-Rockland St Peter
Reginald Groom Son 4 b-Rockland St Peter
Arthur Groom Son 3 b-Rockland St Peter
Class:RG13 Piece:1868 Folio:72 Page:2

Daisy was born the same year as Elizabeth died and there is a gap to Reginald b-1897. There is a marriage for a James Groom Jun Qtr 1896 Wayland. 4b 505. to a Mary Foreman. (I matched up the other couple on the page using the census)

I had a look in the baptisms of Rockland St Peter but there are no Grooms. What do you think?

Holly
PS: Two households up are a Thomas and Sussana Fincham. Any chance they are connected?
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Wednesday 08 September 10 13:30 BST (UK)
Hi again,

Don't know if you have it:
From Rockland St Peter's Burials:
Elizabeth Groom Abode: Rockland Saints Age: 33 years Buried: Jan 19th 1894.
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Blue-Spirit on Wednesday 08 September 10 13:32 BST (UK)
Elizabeth died on the 14th Jan 1894...found a photograph of her grave. in my collection..

Thanks.

regards..

Hi again,

Don't know if you have it:
From Rockland St Peter's Burials:
Elizabeth Groom Abode: Rockland Saints Age: 33 years Buried: Jan 19th 1894.
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: rockymountain on Monday 08 October 12 16:53 BST (UK)
I was searching the internet for Sussums and found this.  My great grandfather and great grandmother were William and Elizabeth.  Some of their children I didn't know about; were Bertie and Beatrice.  The ones that i have that aren't listed are; Alice, Gerti,Nellie, Lilian, Bert, Edith.  So we combined we have 5 out of a possible 13.  I was curious if some one could help me or point me in the right to get more info.  I'm from Canada and somewhat new to searching about family trees so i don't know where to start.  I know some Sussums lived in Norfolk, but don't know if we are related.  Also my Grandfather, John 'Jack' William Sussums was born December 14 1888, maybe Scoulton or Stow Bedon, Norfolk.  One of my  Grand uncles Harold fought in WW 1. Died in April 19 1917, and fought in 1st/5th Battalion Norfolk Regiment.  So please help if you can.
Title: Re: Elizabeth SUSSUMS, 1901
Post by: Soniarobinson on Thursday 06 January 22 18:59 GMT (UK)
Rocky mountain my great great grandparents were William and Elizabeth. Their daughter Rosa Ellen is my great grandmother. I think I have most of their children if you would like to message me.