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Title: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Friday 03 September 10 13:35 BST (UK)
I am searching for any Christening records for James Jenkins born I think in Godshill on the Isle of Wight .Possibly around 1813-14.I am trying to find what his parents names and occupations were as well.
Thank you
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 03 September 10 21:31 BST (UK)
Do you have him on any census at all?  Was his wife Fanny or Frances?

The only one I can find at the moment was baptised in Wootton 31 July 1814 to James & Kezia Jenkins.  James was a farmer and can be found at Duke's Farm in Northwood on the island in 1851.

Nell
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Friday 03 September 10 23:30 BST (UK)
Brilliant, :) the  James Jenkins I found a couple of weeks ago is buried at Northwood Cemetery along with his wife Frances Jenkins nee Dunford.
 So James and Kezia would be his parents, as I believe their son James was baptised at Wooton.
So he bacame a farmer .Where would I find any record of this farm.I live in Kent so I have to do most of my research via the net.James and Frances were my late husbands Gt Gt Granddad & Gt,Gt,Grandmother The Jenkins family seemed to have stayed in the Northwood area as there are about 18-20 of them buried at Northwood.
Thanks so much for the info.
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Little Nell on Saturday 04 September 10 12:27 BST (UK)
Father James was the farmer, son James does not seem to have inherited the farm

Census info for you:

1841 HO107/407/6 4 p3  Duke's Farm, parish of Northwood

James Jenkins 50 Yeoman born in county
Kezia 75 not born in county
William Jenkins 20 Ag Lab born in county

separate household, but same reference.

James Jenkins 25 Ag lab born in county
Frances Jenkins 25 born in county
John Jenkins 4 born in county
James Jenkins 2 born in county

1851: HO107/1662/15 p2 Duke's Farm Northwood

James Jenkins Head 64 Farmer of 70 acres employing 3 labourers b Newport
Kezia wife 80 b Everley Wiltshire
James Jenkins 36 marr Farmer's son b Wootton
William Jenkins unmarr 30 Farmer's son b Northwood IOW
Fanny Jenkins 37 son's wife, b Northwood
John Jenkins 14 grandson Ag lab b Northwood
James Jenkins 11 grd son general servant b Northwood
Mary A Jenkins 8 grand daughter scholar b Northwood
Clara Jenkins grand daughter 5 scholar b Northwood
Henry Jenkins grd son 3 b Northwood
Sarah Jenkins grd daughter 3 months b Northwood

By 1861 James junior is a woodman, living at Tinkers Lane Northwood.

RG9/652/21 p3

James Jenkins Head 47 Woodman b Wootton
Frances wife 47 b Northwood (!)
John son 24 shipwright b Northwood
James son 22 Apprentice shipwright b Northwood
Henry son 13 ag lab b Northwood
Sarah Jane daughter 10 scholar b Northwood
William son 8 scholar b Northwood

Kezia seems to have died aged 104 in 1870, but I've no idea where she and James were in 1861.  James died in 1862 aged 78, leaving a will (HRO catalogue indicates that he was now a gardener).  James junior the woodman died in 1870.

Nell
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Little Nell on Saturday 04 September 10 12:42 BST (UK)
Link to show the location of Duke's Farm:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/09pe/

If you put Rew Street into Google Maps and use streetview you can see what the area looks like now.

IOW record office may be able to assist with other information.

Nell
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Saturday 04 September 10 23:22 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for all your help Its amazing what you have found out for me .Brilliant I wiill be able to build up quite a lot from what you have sent to me .Fancy Kezia living to such a ripe old age fairly rare in those days .
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 05 September 10 12:15 BST (UK)
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Fancy Kezia living to such a ripe old age fairly rare in those days .

That does worry me a bit - she would have been truly remarkable to still be having children in 1814 at the age of 48 or so!

I wonder if she'd forgotten her age?

Nell
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Monday 06 September 10 12:28 BST (UK)
Hi its only me again I spent a bit of time sorting out some of the Jenkins tree and looking at the census info on 1841 it gives jame as 50 and his wife as 75
then 10 years later in 1851 James is 64 and his wife is 80.
I have sent off for Kezia's death certificate, and also James' one Hopefully it will say where they were when they died. neither of them were buried at Northwood cemetary I wonder if they went back to where she was apparently born in Everley in Wiltshire I will let you know when I get the certs. I had a bit of info about the Jenkins family from a distant relation who said that she understood  they at one time lived at Deborne Lodge on the Cowes/Gurnard road. its facinating how this is all building up a bit at a time .I was very lucky doing my side of the family as they more or less stayed put for about 8 generations in a small village in north east Scotland
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Tuesday 07 September 10 17:00 BST (UK)
Where would I find a copy of James Jenkins will from 1862
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Little Nell on Tuesday 07 September 10 21:30 BST (UK)
Hampshire Record Office list a 'registered copy' in their catalogue, but I suspect that your best way forward is to order it (£5 for a copy) from the Probate Service.  It takes up to three weeks, unless you can visit London:

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/civil/probate/index.htm

There is a better link, but I can't get the page to load at the moment - the above is the 'front page' for probate and includes links to services, how to apply, fees and the form you need to complete and send off.

Nell



Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Tuesday 07 September 10 23:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help in this matter I am looking forward to getting Kezia's death certificate in a few days time.
Cheers Jackie Walder
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Friday 10 September 10 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi I have received kezia's death cert and on it is stated her age of 104 and her cause of death as natural decay !!! she was registered by frances Jenkins and the place where she died as Gurnard ,Northwood.The cemetery records for Northwood go back to 1865 but there is no record of her burial there . would burial records for her be at the newport Records office .by the way its seems to be the right one as she is recorded as the widow of James Jenkins (Farmer) which would be the one who had Dukes Farm in Rew Street.
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 10 September 10 20:33 BST (UK)
It is possible that she is buried at Gurnard.  IOW Record Office holds the cemetery records and there is an index.  An enquiry to them would be the best idea.

http://www.iwight.com/library/record_office/

Nell
Title: Re: James JENKINS - baptism Isle of Wight
Post by: Walder on Friday 10 September 10 21:43 BST (UK)
Thank you for that I think I will have to have another trip over to the Island within the next few weeks.I am awaiting the death certificate of her husband James Jenkins.The GRO send them out separately even when you order them together
Thanks once again Mrs Jackie Walder