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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: sheilajohnson21 on Thursday 02 September 10 16:37 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I hope this is the right place to ask for help with my great x 3 grandfather Edward Goldsmith born1762cc in Ramsgate, Kent, i have been searching for the last two years for his death date and still cant find it, can anyone help please. He married a Sarah Wood 3 April 1783 she was born 30 October 1763 and whose death i also cant find.
They had 14 children, 1st child Edward born in 1784 and the last Ann in 1804 all in Ramsgate, Kent. So Edward & Sarah must have still been alive at least up to 1804.
Can anyone help me knock this brick wall down.
With thanks
Sheila.
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Hi Sheila
There are a few burials in St Lawrence, Thanet (Ramsgate)/Ramsgate on the Record Search Pilot at http://www.familysearch.org which might fit ............... 1805 1805 1814 1838 .............. I guess you need a peek at the originals for any further information which might help to identify which, if any, could be him.
Casalguidi :)
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Hi Casaguida
Thanks for that quick response, i will give that a go, can i asked what you mean by the orginals and where could i find them.
Thanks
Sheila.
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The original parish registers which might give more information ie. ages post 1813+. They may well have copies on film or fiche at Ramsgate and/or Margate libraries http://kent.gov.uk/LibrariespublicUI/ otherwise they are at Canterbury Cathedral Archives.
Casalguidi :)
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Thanks for your advice Casalguildi I have found the burials on the FamilySearch site and will have to get to Canterbury to have another look.
Thanks again :)
sheila.
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Hi Casaguilda
Have been to relook at Parish Burial records for Edward Goldsmith, the only one close was 30th July 1805 St. Lawrence, which said he died suddenly, and his last child was born in 1804 so a possibility, but this would make his birth 1752 not 1762. I have looked at the births for 1752 and have come across one for a Edward Goldsmith bap 11th June 1752 at St. Johns in Margate, which is close to Ramsgate, so this could have been him.
I have his marriage date of 3rd April 1783 to Sarah Wood but there is no age, so cant double check his age with that.
If i contacted the church of St. Lawrence do you think they would have more details about his marriage and what age he was when he married to try and find out his birth year.
Back to the drawing board.
Sheila.
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Hi, Edward was also my relative, his son Charles Goldsmith m Maria Freeman, and three of their children came to Australia, Maria Ann, Caroline Frances, Charles James. Maria Ann Goldsmith had 7 children to Jabez Janes . Do you have any info on the family? Or can I share any with you. :)
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Hi, Your Charles Goldsmith who married Maria Freeman is the brother to my great x 2 grandfather Richard Goldsmith 1802 - 1867, so that is my link and their father was Edward Goldsmith born cc1762 My great x 3 grandfather) who i still cant find his death or burial date.
As you probably realise the Goldsmith family is very large, so i have not yet had a lot of time to reseach your Charles (my 2nd great uncle) but i have seen some information about the family, and have as yet not had time to research it properly.
Maria Ann as you say went to Australia and married Jabez Janes, and they had 7 children, i cannot possibly put all my information i have on the goldsmiths on this message, so if you would like to send a pm with your e mail address i can send you some attachments.
I go on holiday on Sunday for a week so will not be around next week.
Best Wishes
Sheila.
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Thank you Shiela anything would be great, I have abit of info on the Australian side I could send to you also. My email address is email address removed by moderator - please use the Rootschat secure personal message system to exchange email addresses thankyou
Cheers Deb
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Hi Debbie,
I have sent you a personal message with my e mail address on, yours was deleted so i cant as yet e mail you any information i have
Sheila.
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I live in Melbourne, Australia, and Maria Ann Goldsmith is my great grandmother...
Maria Ann Goldsmith was born in Ramsgate, Kent, England and was 24 years old in 1857 when my grandmother Clara Jane GOLDSMITH was born in Flemington, in Melbourne, in 1857. Her age and details on her daughter’s certificate therefore makes her born in 1833 at Ramsgate, Kent, England. Her parents were Charles Goldsmith and Maria Freeman.
Maria Goldsmith was said on some birth certificates to have a husband - Jabez Janes who was age 45 yrs and Maria was 34 yrs on the birth of Emily Sarah Janes in 1867. Making his record as born in Hampshire England in 1822. NO marriage certificate has been found for Maria & Jabez. I wonder if Jabez was Jewish and Maria was not and the marriage of the two not recognised. any help with info would be appreciated, and I in turn can offer what research I have done. Thanks Margot
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Familysearch has the following baptism:
Maria Ann Goldsmith 4th July 1833 at St. George's Church, Ramsgate, daughter of Charles & Maria.