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Title: William Charteris - artist
Post by: bibadeb on Thursday 02 September 10 11:57 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any information on William Charteris resident in Bevenden Street, Hoxton in 1916. I have his son's marriage certificate and his occupation is listed as 'artist', no further information. His son, also William Charteris was a 'carman'.
I am researching my son in laws family - William senior is his great great grandfather. I don't think they are direct relatives of the aristocratic Charteris's resident in london- but who knows?
Any information gratefully received!
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: Mort29 on Thursday 02 September 10 12:03 BST (UK)
1901 census of Shoreditch, Hoxton Old Town: RG13; Piece: 274; Folio: 74; Page: 13 - 23, Aske Street
 
Wm Chartaris 38 Head of Household born London City: Picture Painter
Emma Chartaris 37 Wife born City
Wm Chartaris 12 son born Hoxton
Ernest Chartaris 9 son born St Lukes
Maud Chartanis 6 dau ditto
Ellen Chartaris 4 dau ditto
George Chartaris 1 son ditto



1891 census of Holborn Regn District, City Road. St Luke Parish - 53, Baldwin Street

RG12; Piece: 231; Folio 60; Page 37

William Charteris 30 Head of Household born City, Smithfield: No occupation shown
Emma Charteris 27 Wife born City, Fore Street
William Charteris 2 son born Hoxton, Custon/m Street




Not obvious in earlier census to reveal possible parents.
 

No obvious BMD entries matching stated PoBs and census locations.
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: LoneyBones on Thursday 02 September 10 12:08 BST (UK)
William, aged 21, is still in Shorditch in the 1911 census.
You would need to pay for any aditional information from the official 1911 web site.
http://www.1911census.co.uk/

Good luck,
Leonie.
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: cardiff on Thursday 02 September 10 12:10 BST (UK)
Hi
10 years later the family are still in shoreditch (*)
 so it is the correct family that Mort29 has given you ;D
cheers cardiff :)


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Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: Mort29 on Thursday 02 September 10 12:22 BST (UK)
yes, I thought being a PICTURE PAINTER in 1901 was a good clue  :P

In the probable absence of a Marriage, you could get one of their childrens' Birth Papers to reveal mother Emma's maiden name:-


Possibly this is Ernest shown aged 9 on the 1901 ?

Births Jun 1891   
 
Chartres  Ernest Henry    Holborn  1b 805

and the youngest, George

Births Sep 1899 
 
Chartris  George    Holborn  1b 708

Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: bibadeb on Thursday 02 September 10 12:42 BST (UK)
Wow!! Thanks to you all. Thats a giant leap forward for me and my research - dosen't help having all the different spellings of the surname and they all seem to be called William!
Thanks again. Really kind and helpful of you all. Debby
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: Tati on Thursday 02 September 10 12:52 BST (UK)
Hi all  :)

Just in case the children's certs show Emma's maiden name as Scott, I can see this marriage:

14 Sep 1885 Bethnal Green
William John Charteris, 22, Bachelor, Labourer, 13 Wellington Street Kingland Road, father William John Charteris, Tea Grocer
Emily Scott, 22, Spinster, Envelope Folder, 72 Casston Street City Road, father Charles Scott, Printer

Witnesses Henry Toon and Susan Stevens
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: cardiff on Thursday 02 September 10 12:55 BST (UK)
Hi
last child born that i can see? Jenny Charteris 2nd qtr 1909 vol 1c page 14 district shoreditch
cheers cardiff :)
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: bibadeb on Thursday 02 September 10 16:11 BST (UK)
Thanks again! Just had a visit from the latest Charteris - my granddaughter Izabella Rose - 5 months old.
I'm off to have a rummage round the ancestry site searching under all the different name spellings.
Thank you - you have all been so helpful :D
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: Cintombi on Monday 02 September 13 19:27 BST (UK)
Hello, I am keen to learn more about William Charteris and William John Charteris, Artist and Carman if you are willing o share. C
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: Bradrick on Tuesday 26 October 21 15:18 BST (UK)
Hi
I am new to this excellent forum and came across this thread by chance.
I realise that this is an old thread, but William John Charteris was my grandfather (married to Ada Alice Rowe), so of great interest.
Much as has been said above, I have traced his father (also William Charteris, with the profession 'Artist'). I also have the marriage certificate for William Charteris and Emily Scott, dated 1885 in Bethnal Green.
I am currently pursuing this line, and any information would be gratefully received.
I have only recently begun researching my family tree seriously (a somewhat 'leisurely' attempt some while ago). I have taken Ada Rowe's family back to 1700's... less confusing than my grandfather's line).
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: dawnsh on Tuesday 26 October 21 17:07 BST (UK)
Hi Bradrick

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Yes it is an old topic but they never get deleted.

The earlier contributors haven't been online here for sometime.

Depending on how they've set up their email notifications, that may or may not be notified of your reply.

If you can reply on this topic, you will then have access to the personal message system.

If you don't get a reply from bibadeb who you may be distantly related to, you could send a personal message to see if that starts a conversation.

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Dawn
Title: Re: William Charteris - artist
Post by: Bradrick on Tuesday 26 October 21 17:31 BST (UK)
Thank you for the welcome Dawn, and for the information.

I'll do as you suggest and message bibadeb.

Regards
Brad