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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: shazadoobie on Wednesday 01 September 10 11:06 BST (UK)
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I am going to Scarborough for a few days next week to do some "graveyard trawling". If anyone wants photos of gravestones or of the surrounding areas let me know.
Sharon
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Hi Sharon
If you are going to be near Manor Road Cemetery, just a general pic of the cemetery would be appreciated. My g-grandfather is interred there somewhere (in a pauper's grave - so no headstone and I don't know just where). So a general view would be good for me.
Many thanks
Ceeoh
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Hi Ceeoh.
You can still find out what the plot number is.
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Thanks Sharon, I will try again. I e mailed them in July and received a reply from "Customer First" saying they had passed my request on to the Crematorium Department (don't quite understand why the crematorium department (my g-grandfather died in 1895) unless they hold all the records).
I didn't hear any further but they did give me a tracking number, I will send a further request and perhaps they will send me the plot number.
Regards
Ceeoh
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My apologies - I see that post came from Loubla - as per my previous post I will try again
Many thanks
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Hi Sharon
Many thanks for your kind offer.
I too would like a general photo of the cemetery along with a photo of a gravestone if you happen to be anywhere close to the following....
Sarah Ann Brown (nee Fletcher) buried on the 26/07/1889 in grave no. South Terrace 2 - 26 at Dean Road Cemetery, (aged 34 years).
Just in case you happen to pass any other Browns, Sarah's family died in Scarborough but will check on their grave no's and let you know - they are her husband Edmund Brown who died in 1903, daughter Emily Brown died 1949, Edmund John Brown died 1908, Eleanor died in 1968, Henrietta died about 1955, George Henry Brown & Harry Brown I don't yet have death details.
Many Thanks
Sally
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Hi Ceeoh & Sally
Ceeoh, Woodlands Crematorium, Scarborough, hold the records. You could give them a call, the number is 01723 372652 and they are very helpful. I will take some general photos also for you. The cemetery is huge so I will do some from various areas. In fact, I think I have some general ones from previous trips so I will see what I have and forward them to you. The "pauper" graves usually contain more than one body but I can still photograph the plot if you can find out what number it is.
Sarah, I have a plan of the cemetery so it should be easy enough to locate. Let me know the other grave numbers and I will see what I can find.
Kind Regards
Sharon
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Many thanks Sharon - I sent an e mail last night and received a reply this afternoon (not in the U.K. so phone not an option!) - this is what I call good service.
John Porteous, Manor Road Cemetery, interred 17 July 1895, grave number M6-26
Regards
Ceeoh
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If you happen to stumble across a Gamble, a photo might be helpful to a brick wall... :-\
Thanks for the offer.
meles
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Ceeoh, here are a few pics from Dean Rd cemetery from a visit a few years ago as promised. I will get some of the grave number next week for you.
Kind Regards
Sharon
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Another one
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Derelict church at Dean Road cemetery
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Hello Sharon
Many thanks for the Dean Road Cemetery photographs - sorry, but my g-grandfather is in Manor Road Cemetery.
These are certainly interesting as it is sad to see the derelict church (old, stone, and so much more fitting than the modern ones we see these days). There are couple of boarded up chapels in Guisborough Cemetery too. I was somewhat taken aback on my last visit to Guisborough, to see the Cemetery Lodge had been renovated, and inhabited as a private dwelling.
If you have anything of Manor Road Cemetery it would be appreciated.
Regards
Ceeoh
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Hi Ceeoh, after a bit of a panic I have now realised it is the same cemetery and goes under both names of Manor Road/Dean Road so it is the right one. I was wondering how I had got the wrong one! The cemetery is huge and begins at Columbus Ravine, runs alongside Dean Road and ends alongside Manor Road. I love the old church and think it is such a shame that it is in such a poor state of disrepair.
I will have more photos for you next weekend.
Meles, I will certainly keep an eye out for any Gambles for you too.
Sharon
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Very many thanks Sharon - I've learned something today then.
Perhaps one day I may get to visit Scarborough - haven't been there for about 40+ years. Will put it on the list for the next (hopefully) visit.
Thanks again
Ceeoh
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Thanks, Sharon. I know they lived there, but don't have a clue where they were buried. But a serendipitous finding might give a hint.
meles
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Sharon
Many thanks for the photos - they are really good to see :)
I'm waiting for a reply about my other plot no's and will let you know hopefully by early next week.
Regards
Sally
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Hi Sharon
Here are the details of the grave no's I have been waiting for...
Edmund John Brown Grave no. South Terrace 2 - 26
Emily Brown Grave no. V Border 123
Edmund John Brown Grave no. South Terrace 5 - 27
Don't worry if you are unable to find them as I do appreciate the cemetery is a very big one and would take some walking round - a photo of the South Terrace & V Border area would be nice but only if you are around that area.
Thanks Again
Kind Regards
Sally
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Hi Everyone
Well, I found all the graves for you guys and not one of them had a headstone - not one! I did take photos of the plots anyway and will pop them on here later (at work at mo).
Ceeoh, I must apologise - the 2 cemeteries are indeed seperate! I had only ever used the pathway that links them underneath the road so had assumed they were one big cemetery but from the roadside it's obvious they are seperate! I took photos of both and will also upload them later.
Meles, no Gambles I'm afraid, I did look as much as I could and would have loved to have found at least one for you!
Will pop the photos on here later as I don't think it's possible to send them in private messages?
Sharon
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Ah well, never mind! Thanks for looking - I really appreciate it!
meles
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Never Mind!
Thanks very much for looking, it's much appreciated.
Sally
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Many thanks Sharon, will log on later to have a look. I have discovered how to download the pic from the topic to my computer (learn something every day!) so it is no problem posting it on here.
It has been my lucky week as another rootschatter has discovered my great grandmother's death notice in the Northern Echo.
Wonderful folk these rootschatters, always much appreciated.
Regards
Margaret (Ceeoh)
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Photos, still disappointed there were no headstones! First two are grave site of John Porteous and also a headstone for an Anne Porteous I came across.
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Next photo is the site of the Edmond Browns plots in SOuth Terrace. 2-26 is the gap between the nearest headstones and 5-27 is next to the broken cross headstone towards the back of the photo.
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Emily Brown v border 123. Her grave is next to the large black headstone facing the pathway.
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General views of Manor Rd
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Many, many thanks Sharon, the pictures are most appreciated.
Regards
Margaret
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Should have said in my last post - when I saw the stone for Anne Porteous I was quite excited as John's second wife - who was still alive when he died - was named Ann. However, this is not her as the dates don't fit, and I see her husband was William.
I will pass this on to the Porteous genealogist who has over three hundred Porteous trees on file and I'm pretty sure she will be able to tie this Anne into another family.
Many thanks for including it.
Regards
Margaret
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Glad the photos were of interest. Apparently the graveyards are suffering at the hands of vandals these days which explains why some headstones are broken and others pushed over! Even the reasonably current ones can be illegible, perhaps its the salt in the air that does something to them? Hoping I shall have better luck next time in actually finding headstones rather than just unmarked graves!
Sharon
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Sharon
Thanks so much for the photos, your help is very much appreciated.
Regards
Sally
ps. does anyone know if MI's have been done for this Cemetery?
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Hi Sally
I have just come across this website;
http://www.gravestonephotos.com
According to the site someone is photographing and indexing the Dean Road part of the cemetery.
Regards
Sharon
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Hi Sharon
Many thanks for the info - I have used that website in the past but I keep forgetting about it!
Regards
Sally
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Hi, I am sure that I am too late, but if you ever go again I would like photos of any Harwood Graves in Dean Cemetry.
Cheers
Jean
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hello, just out of interest,
there are two (maybe more now) monumental inscription books from dean rd, cemetery printed by the east yorkshire f.h. society, scarborough.
also on face book there is a Friends of dean rd and manor rd cemetery page. the friends are currently repairing the broken stones slowly but surely.
also once a year they have a fair to raise funds for the repairs (details on the face book page.)
most of my family are burie in dean rd/manor rd, so i am very interested in what goes on there!
tina