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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Lancashire_Rose on Tuesday 31 August 10 12:53 BST (UK)
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Hi, I'm looking for some advice about how to proceed with finding my great grandfather's burial place.
Samuel Harrison (1886-1927)
From the death certificate he died on his way to the Poor Law Infirmary in Hemsworth, West Yorkshire on August 23rd 1927. There was an inquest on August 25th. There are no coroner's records for me to get any information from but I have found a newspaper which reported the accident and the inquest, this tells me that his brother James Harrison a green grocer from Hall Lane, Moses Gate identified his body and attended the inquest.
I have searched all the municipal cemererties records for the area in West Yorkshire, I have searched the church records for the Hemsworth church, the infirmary didn't have a burial site. I have found no trace of him in West Yorkshire so I am wondering if perhaps his brother brought his body back to Lancashire (Farnworth area) for burial - all his family were in Farnworth/Moses Gate.
I have searched various Bolton municipal cemetery records and church records and haven't yet found him in the Bolton/Farnworth area.
I posted about this on the West Yorkshire boards a few weeks ago but I thought I would ask the Lancashire boards people if they have any ideas or suggestions for me as I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall with this but I am determined to find him :-\
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Hello Lancashire Rose
I was wondering whether there would be an orbituary notice in the particular newspaper that recorded the inquest.
Sometimes,I have identified a more local newspaper where the deceased lived and that had the details of the service and mourners . In your sad case however money may have been an issue :'(
Good luck anyway
Eric :)
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Hi
Don't know if you have seen this site:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
It has a lot of places in Lancashire BMD from Church records, although there's no Samuel Harrison in the Farnworth with Kearsley Churches, there are loads of other Harrisons.You can also search the whole of Lancashire....
There's a death/burial for a Samuel Catlow Harrison in Burnley in 1927....
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Hiya Cissie...don`t know if it helps Lancashire Rose in any way...
Samuel Catlow Harrison died 1927 was aged 33 and his death was registered in Lancaster...so he would have been born 1894 ...a little late ..the death is on
www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
allan :)
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Hello everyone, many thanks for taking the time to read my thread and for the replies. My gt grandfather was 40 years old when he died and the one mentioned in Burnley is definately not him. Howmuch: thanks for the idea of the obituary section in the local papers, I did search quite a few in both West Yorkshire and Lancashire but turned up nothing. I agree that the family probably wouldn't have been able to afford it anyway, it seems they didn't have two pennies to rub together. I did think that perhaps there may have been reports in the Farnworth Journal if a body was "being brought home" for burial but alas I have found no trace of any such report.
I'm beginning to think that perhaps he was buried somewhere in West Yorkshire where he died, apparantly there was a duty (tax) to pay to each local authority passed through if you were transporting a body so I think I shall turn my attention back to West Yorkshire for a while. Thanks again everyone :)
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Hi
My great grandfather is also Samuel Harrison and is the bane of my life. In my 'collection' of Samuels I can tell you that I have :
29.12.1926 died aged 46 buried at St Thomas, Hyde
1926 - no age - Beckett St Cemetery, Leeds
Also its free to do an initial search on the Manchester Council Cemeteries site - although it will only give you the grave no, date of burial and also the names of others in the grave that may help you marry them up to your Samuel. You can pay a fee for more information but I am not sure what you get for your money. There are a few Samuels to chose from!
Hope you have more luck with your Samuel than I have with mine!
Cheers
Ginger
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Where was he living at the time of his death and where did his wife get buried?
Dotty
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Hi dotty
His wife Ruth died and was buried in Watford in 1901. He died on 16th Dec 1916 don't know exactly where but have been to his grave in Southern Cemetry in Manchester. The headstone gives date of death but we cannot find his details registered to get a cert.
He was a boatman and according to the family was crushed after falling in we suspect in the Manchester area. He also appears to have done the missing link between his wife dying and the 1911 census where he was living in Chorlton with his sister and the family.
His children, we are told, during that period thought they were orphans and were brought up by relatives and others.
I have wondered if he was in jail or perhaps found himself another family..... its a mystery
Cheers
Ginger
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Hi,
This is an example of the kind of information you get from the City of Manchester burial register. You already know his date of death, profession and probably age so the only extra information it would give you is his address which you may already have too.
Hope I'm not breaking any copyright rules here but I think it okay to post a portion of a document ???.
Luzzu
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Thanks Luzzo - I think I have his address, however I have always wondered exactly what information the registers give - now I know!!
Thanks again for your interest
Ginger
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Morning Rootchatters,
Thanks Ginger for offereing me the information on Samuel Harrison's which you have found but are not yours, unfortunately they are not mine either :(
I can't believe how much I have found out about my great grandfather, a few months ago I knew nothing (I was even having problems with his name!) - I now know all about his parents and siblings and where he was in his younger years, I know snippets of his life during WW1, I know where he was living, how long he had been there, what he was doing for work, where when and how the accident happened, how he died in a taxi on his way to hospital, who identified his body, who attended the inquest...so much but yet I cannot find his resting place and I have this real "need" to find him :'(
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Hi Lancashire Rose
I know how you feel - I know where my Samuel is but need to know the truth of how he died and the last few years of his life - he is an enigma. Good luck with your mission - you will get there in the end.
Ginger
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Thanks Ginger. The answer is out there for both of us, I guess we just have to be patient and persistant ;D
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ginger do you know how old he was when he died?
Dotty
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Hi Dotty
He was born 1866 which made him 50 but the age on the grave looks to be 53, which is odd. However he is buried with his sister (and described as such)and with other family members so we are sure its him.
Many thanks
Ginger
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Have you seen the death registered in 1st qtr 1917 at Chorlton?
Dotty
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Hi Dotty - yes I even sent for the cert in the hope it was him but it was a chap who died at home of a bad chest - and who worked in a drapery shop - very disappointing ......
cheers
Ginger