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Title: Rosina Birch
Post by: sweetsuger on Saturday 28 August 10 11:48 BST (UK)
I am looking for Rosina Birch, she was married to a William.? Stretton in abt 1840/50s in the Staffordshire Area, My grandmother Jane Stretton their daughter was born in Birmingham 'i think' and married  a Thomas Joseph Herrick, Thomas had a Brother named Michael.

Connecting names for this family are Fisher, Pursehouse,Storey, Smith.

Hoping that some-one will be able to help me. Thank you. Sweet
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 11:51 BST (UK)
I think you need to establish some facts before moving back

Have you got William, Rosina and Jane on a census?
When was Jane born?  How do you know when / wherre they married? (no good guessing!)

Or if that is not established then start with a more recent event - have you got Thomas and Jane on a census? Have yo found their marriage?
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 11:56 BST (UK)
Ok - is this Jane's marriage?

Jan/Feb/Mar 1909
Birmingham 6d 124
Jane Stretton

one of the grooms on the same page - Thomas Michael J Herrick

(different name for Thomas - unlikely to have a brother called Michael if his middle name was Michael!)


Finding Thomas and Jane on the 1911 census will give an age and birthplace for Jane
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 12:03 BST (UK)
Free BMD also has this marriage (it is free to search so do look yoursefl)

Ap/May/Jun 1884
Birmingham 6d 12
Rosina Birch
one of grooms on same page - William Stretton

so if your info is correct these could be Jane's parents. (date quite a lot different to 1840/50 Staffordshire!)

but I cant seem to see any of them on 1891 census
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 12:06 BST (UK)
This seems to be the only possible for Janes birth

Jul/Aug/Sep 1887
Birmingham 6d 202
Jane Stretton
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 12:10 BST (UK)
Ah got them in 1891 (indexed Shelton)
writing is dire!

Rg12 2391 68 7

Birmingham
William 37 Bugle maker? or maybe bicycle maker ? bn Tamworth Staffs
Rosina 31 bn B'ham
Jane 4 bn B'ham
Polly? 1 bn Liverpool

interesting they took a trip to Liverpool!

Anyway, your original post said you were looking for Rosina Birch
We now know she was born about 1860 in Birmingham

Getting her marriage cert would confirm her fathers name
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 12:15 BST (UK)
1881 is free to search

She can be seen at RG11 2991 110 25, age 21
with parents Thomas and Elizabeth and a string of younger siblings, in B'ham
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 12:19 BST (UK)
1871 reveals some older siblings too who must have left by 1881

1871
RG10 3089 135 41

116 Pope Str, B'ham

Thomas 38 jewellers die forger bn Walsall
Elizabeth 41
Maria 16
Emma 14
Rose 11
Eliza9
Thomas 7
Amy 3       all except dad bn B'ham
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 12:24 BST (UK)
1861
RG9 2128 135 43

Pope Str
Thomas 28 Blacksmith bn Walsall
Elizabeth 30
Maria 6
Emma 4
Rosina 1
Mary Proud mother-in-law 60 wid 

al except dad bn B'ham
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: lizdb on Saturday 28 August 10 12:30 BST (UK)
This looks like the Prouds in 1851

but I cant see the marriage for Elizabeth to Thomas Birch

HO107 2058 90 31

Phineas Proud 59 gardener bn Walsall
Mary 58 bn B'ham
Elizabeth 22 dtr bn B'ham
Thomas 15 son bn B'ham
+ lodger
Title: Re: Rosina Birch
Post by: sweetsuger on Saturday 28 August 10 17:36 BST (UK)
Lizdb,  What can i say,.... THANK YOU.... so much what a great help that is for me,    you are a star.
Thank you again.    Sweet