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Title: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Wednesday 25 August 10 17:07 BST (UK)
Does anyone know if the Accrington Pals served abroad during WW1
My uncle, Arthur Harold Jones was in the1/5 East Lancs regiment, he died of Malaria after he came home
Regards
Freda B
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 25 August 10 17:23 BST (UK)
This might help

www.pals.org.uk/pals_e.htm

Linda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: forester on Wednesday 25 August 10 18:07 BST (UK)
Freda,

Is he Arthur H Jones, Private 1990 and later 240341, East Lancashire Regiment and service records on Ancestry? Awarded the Military Medal, according to his MIC, but I'm struggling to find it.

He certainly served overseas. He embarked for Egypt 10/9/14

Phil
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: msr on Wednesday 25 August 10 18:20 BST (UK)
The Accrington Pals not only served abroad, many of them died.

Mike Harding wrote this song.     Read it here  http://www.aftermathww1.com/harding.asp

You can also here it by clicking a link beneath the song.

Susan

(who went to school in Accrington)

I hadn't listened to that for a while so have just done so.     Never fails to bring tears to my eyes and make the hairs stand on end.

 
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Wednesday 25 August 10 18:55 BST (UK)
Many thanks Linda for that link - Very interesting, and also very sad

Regards Freda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Wednesday 25 August 10 19:09 BST (UK)
Thanks Phil for the information, it's nice to know where they got to during their overseas service
Regards Freda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: forester on Wednesday 25 August 10 20:11 BST (UK)
Freda,

Have I got the right man?

Born 29th Jan 1898.
Address: 14 or 41 Stevenson St East, Accrington. Also 39 Mariden(?) St, Accrington.
Next of kin on his original attestation papers: Mother, Rebecca.

He wasn't one of the Accrington Pals, as that was the 11th (Service) Battalion. He was a Territorial.

If I have got the right one, you could write a book about him.
I can't track down the MM, but he was awarded the Belgian Croix de Guerre. He never claimed his medals according to his medal index card.

I also can't see any reference to malaria and this man re-enlisted in 1920.
When did your uncle die?

Phil
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Wednesday 25 August 10 20:51 BST (UK)
Hello Phil

This is very strange, I always understood he was in the pals.  You have the correct dob he did live at 41 Stevenson st east Accrington, and his mother's name was Rebecca.  Does it give his wifes name? she was called Freda Muriel.  As for the date of his death, I will have to get back to you on that one, as it was another person who researched that, she has the death certificate, that's how I found out about the Malaria

Regards Freda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Wednesday 25 August 10 20:54 BST (UK)
Thank you Susan for that link, yes I agree, it brings a tear to your eye

Regards Freda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: AlexanderFields on Wednesday 25 August 10 23:35 BST (UK)
Just back from a visit to the Somme battlefields. The picture shows the inscription on a memorial to the Accrington Pals near Serre and what remains of a front line trench nearby. About 700 men of the Pals battalion went into action on the first day of the Battle of the Somme, June 1st, 1916,  to attack the village of Serre. Two hundred and thirty-five were killed and 350 wounded in half an hour, effectively wiping out the battalion (source Wikipedia). AF
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Thursday 26 August 10 10:40 BST (UK)
Hello AlexanderFields

Thank you so much for the photograph

Regards Freda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Thursday 26 August 10 10:44 BST (UK)
Hello Phil
Arthur Harold Jones died on the 3rd March1923 aged 26

Regards Freda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: forester on Thursday 26 August 10 17:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Freda,

It definitely looks like the records I found are for your uncle.

I didn't spot any marriage details when I was going through them, but some of the pages are badly damaged.

He died 18 months too late to be included on the CWGC Debt of Honour.

Phil

Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Thursday 26 August 10 20:26 BST (UK)
Hello Phil

The papers you have, are they just the Army records? and what sort of details do they give.

Freda
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: forester on Thursday 26 August 10 22:26 BST (UK)
Freda,

All the information has come from the 20 or so pages of his Army service record and his medal index card. It includes when he enlisted and was demobbed and his postings in between, including periods of sickness, leave and promotions.

The records are on Ancestry.

Phil
Title: Re: Accrington Pals WW1
Post by: holmsie on Friday 27 August 10 15:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Phil