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Title: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 04 April 05 13:12 BST (UK)
Hi,
Can anybody help me trace Joseph North or Augusta North on 1891 Census.

What I have is 1891 Census
                                              Augusta Pierce age 42 b Islington.
                                              Stella Pierce age 1 b Enfield
Living at 40 Grafton Road

In 1901 Stella had become Stella North living at 2 Baronsmere Rd, Finchley. RG13/1234
No record of Augusta North or Peirce on 1901 Census.

I have marriage cert. of Stella North still living at 2 Baronsmere Rd, father Joseph North(deceased) and witness Augusta North.
This was in 1914.

I have traced a death of Joseph North in Islington Sept Q 1898 age 48. This is likely to be father of Stella.

WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS SOME RECORD OF JOSEPH NORTH IN 1891.

This would greatly help my research. Thank you
                                                         Regards
                                                                      Geoff
                                                           
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 04 April 05 14:11 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff

I've had a look and there were quite a few Joseph NORTHs of about the right age to be Augusta's father in London and Middlesex .............. the ones that I did pick out were accounted for so I can't, at this stage, see any way of telling just which one, if any, could be Stella's father.

Sorry  :(

Casalguidi
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 04 April 05 14:44 BST (UK)
Hi Casalguidi,
Thanks for your message. It seems that Augusta had Stella out of wedlock. and changed her name later to North. It could well be that Joseph North was already married. I have never traced a marriage of Augusta Peirce with Joseph North. Are there any in your findings who would be born about 1950 (Augusta was born 7/4/1849) probably in Islington or certainly the London area. Stella was born in Enfield but lived with a sister of Augusta who also changed names. It is a complicated and confusing situation.
Any ideas or help. Many thanks
                                                     Geoff
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 04 April 05 14:46 BST (UK)
Sorry meant born 1850 Geoff
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 04 April 05 15:21 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff

Some of the 1891 entries for a Joseph NORTH connected with London/Middlesex

32 b.Enfield in Cheshunt Herts
37 b.Potters Bar Middlesex in South Mimms Middlesex
64 b.Bethnal Green in BG
36 b.Leeds Yorkshire in Bethnal Green
31 b.Holborn in Clerkenwell
69 b.Shoreditch in Hackney
48 b.Wendlebury Oxfordshire in Islington
45 b.Bethnal Green in Shoreditch
28 b.Mile End in Stratford le Bow

The one in Islington:

1891

512 Hornsey Rd, Islington

Joseph NORTH visitor mar 48 b.Wendlebury Oxfordshire (no occupation given)
Elizabeth wife 42 b.Chesterton Oxfordshire

They were staying with a William & Lucy PLANT & family (greengrocer).  William 47 b.Charndon Buckinghamshire & Lucy 46 b.Chesterton Oxfordshire

RG12/146 folio 41 page 79

Casalguidi



Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 04 April 05 15:27 BST (UK)
Hi Casalguidi,
Again many thanks. I will follow that up and see where it leads me. Appreciate your time.
                                         Regards
                                                      Geoff
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 04 April 05 15:40 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff

That one in Islington 1891 - he was still with his wife in 1901 but in Enfield  ???

1901

Plumridge Farm, Enfield

Joseph NORTH head mar 56 farm bailiff b.Wendlebury Beds
Elizabeth wife 53 b.Chesterton Beds

RG13/1271 folio 21 page 33

Casalguidi
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 04 April 05 15:55 BST (UK)
Hi Casalguidi,

That is most interesting as Stella was born in Enfield. Problem is how to sort out the facts from possibilities of illicit relationships.  Thanks
                                    Geoff
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 04 April 05 16:11 BST (UK)
Yes.  I assume that you have Stella's birth and/or baptism and that there are no clues there?

I couldn't identify Augusta NORTH (or whatever her name was) in 1901 either  ???  Perhaps she is living under yet another name or badly mistranscribed somewhere  ???

Good luck .................. I think you'll gonna need it!

Casalguidi

Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 04 April 05 17:48 BST (UK)
Yes I have Stella's birth certificate as Stella Peirce and her marriage certificate as Stella North.I also cannot trace Augusta Peirce/Pierce or Augusta North in 1901. However she was witness at Stella's marriage in 1914 as Augusta North.

I certainly need all the luck going.  Thanks and regards
                                                                                      Geoff

Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: Biker on Monday 02 January 06 14:36 GMT (UK)
Hello

I'm doing a bit of housekeeping and wondering if this older request has been resolved in the meantime or you are still looking for the information?  If the latter, do you have any further information to hand?

If I don't hear from you in a while I'll assume this is resolved and move it to the 'completed' section.

Regards
Biker  :)
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: GeoffP on Monday 02 January 06 14:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Biker, Not completely resolved but it is going nowhere. Please consider completed
                                           Geoff
Title: Re: 1891 Census Islington Area Joseph North
Post by: jesjess1207 on Thursday 17 December 15 22:23 GMT (UK)
My family are Plants from Buckinghamshire / Oxfordshire ..they married some North's. ...look at my tree on Ancestry.co.uk.....