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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: GeoffP on Monday 04 April 05 13:12 BST (UK)
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Hi,
Can anybody help me trace Joseph North or Augusta North on 1891 Census.
What I have is 1891 Census
Augusta Pierce age 42 b Islington.
Stella Pierce age 1 b Enfield
Living at 40 Grafton Road
In 1901 Stella had become Stella North living at 2 Baronsmere Rd, Finchley. RG13/1234
No record of Augusta North or Peirce on 1901 Census.
I have marriage cert. of Stella North still living at 2 Baronsmere Rd, father Joseph North(deceased) and witness Augusta North.
This was in 1914.
I have traced a death of Joseph North in Islington Sept Q 1898 age 48. This is likely to be father of Stella.
WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR IS SOME RECORD OF JOSEPH NORTH IN 1891.
This would greatly help my research. Thank you
Regards
Geoff
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Hi Geoff
I've had a look and there were quite a few Joseph NORTHs of about the right age to be Augusta's father in London and Middlesex .............. the ones that I did pick out were accounted for so I can't, at this stage, see any way of telling just which one, if any, could be Stella's father.
Sorry :(
Casalguidi
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Hi Casalguidi,
Thanks for your message. It seems that Augusta had Stella out of wedlock. and changed her name later to North. It could well be that Joseph North was already married. I have never traced a marriage of Augusta Peirce with Joseph North. Are there any in your findings who would be born about 1950 (Augusta was born 7/4/1849) probably in Islington or certainly the London area. Stella was born in Enfield but lived with a sister of Augusta who also changed names. It is a complicated and confusing situation.
Any ideas or help. Many thanks
Geoff
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Sorry meant born 1850 Geoff
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Hi Geoff
Some of the 1891 entries for a Joseph NORTH connected with London/Middlesex
32 b.Enfield in Cheshunt Herts
37 b.Potters Bar Middlesex in South Mimms Middlesex
64 b.Bethnal Green in BG
36 b.Leeds Yorkshire in Bethnal Green
31 b.Holborn in Clerkenwell
69 b.Shoreditch in Hackney
48 b.Wendlebury Oxfordshire in Islington
45 b.Bethnal Green in Shoreditch
28 b.Mile End in Stratford le Bow
The one in Islington:
1891
512 Hornsey Rd, Islington
Joseph NORTH visitor mar 48 b.Wendlebury Oxfordshire (no occupation given)
Elizabeth wife 42 b.Chesterton Oxfordshire
They were staying with a William & Lucy PLANT & family (greengrocer). William 47 b.Charndon Buckinghamshire & Lucy 46 b.Chesterton Oxfordshire
RG12/146 folio 41 page 79
Casalguidi
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Hi Casalguidi,
Again many thanks. I will follow that up and see where it leads me. Appreciate your time.
Regards
Geoff
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Hi Geoff
That one in Islington 1891 - he was still with his wife in 1901 but in Enfield ???
1901
Plumridge Farm, Enfield
Joseph NORTH head mar 56 farm bailiff b.Wendlebury Beds
Elizabeth wife 53 b.Chesterton Beds
RG13/1271 folio 21 page 33
Casalguidi
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Hi Casalguidi,
That is most interesting as Stella was born in Enfield. Problem is how to sort out the facts from possibilities of illicit relationships. Thanks
Geoff
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Yes. I assume that you have Stella's birth and/or baptism and that there are no clues there?
I couldn't identify Augusta NORTH (or whatever her name was) in 1901 either ??? Perhaps she is living under yet another name or badly mistranscribed somewhere ???
Good luck .................. I think you'll gonna need it!
Casalguidi
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Yes I have Stella's birth certificate as Stella Peirce and her marriage certificate as Stella North.I also cannot trace Augusta Peirce/Pierce or Augusta North in 1901. However she was witness at Stella's marriage in 1914 as Augusta North.
I certainly need all the luck going. Thanks and regards
Geoff
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Hello
I'm doing a bit of housekeeping and wondering if this older request has been resolved in the meantime or you are still looking for the information? If the latter, do you have any further information to hand?
If I don't hear from you in a while I'll assume this is resolved and move it to the 'completed' section.
Regards
Biker :)
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Hi Biker, Not completely resolved but it is going nowhere. Please consider completed
Geoff
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My family are Plants from Buckinghamshire / Oxfordshire ..they married some North's. ...look at my tree on Ancestry.co.uk.....