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Title: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: danishdots on Friday 20 August 10 18:31 BST (UK)
hoping that some-one may be able to help with info re Jane Bull born  Dec 1842 - mother ? Jane Greenham and father ?William Bull.  Lived in Maryborough, Queens County (now Portlaoise, Co. Laois).  If I have the correct Jane - she married a Matthews and I can see her on 1901 and 1911 census as a widow.

Know nothing about 'Bull' or 'Greenham' connections.

Many thanks.

Danishdots :)
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Jack2227 on Friday 20 August 10 21:32 BST (UK)
www.pilot.familysearch.org
has a Jane Bull Mathews

Portaloise Cemetery records RC; (may not be the same family)

Grenham ?; 54, wife of Ex Sergt RIC, patient from hospital, 2/5/1923
(11-63E)

Grenham Joseph, 90, RIC oap, widower, Dublin, 1/12/195
(11-63E)

Grenham Maye; 96, oap, single, The Hill, Monkstown, Aclare nursing home, 19/11/1989
(11-63E)

Griffiths Valuation has
Mrs Jane Bull
Landlord; Henry Graves
Queens
Maryborough East
Mountmellick
Borris
Main st

Jack
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: danishdots on Friday 20 August 10 21:49 BST (UK)
Thank you for that link - I'll have a look.

I should have said but I think that they were probably Church of Ireland or maybe Methodist :-\ :-\

I found the names in a family bible.

Good wishes,
Danisdots.
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Jack2227 on Sunday 22 August 10 11:58 BST (UK)
Curraclone cemetery, Stradbally

Greenham Gibs/Giles?; 23/2/1812 (73)
Greenham Thomas; 3/9/1795  (19)
Barrett William; 29/2/1888 (78) Rathmore

Greenham Anne; 4/1/1814 (32)
Cosby Rachel (sis); 15/1/1805  (29)

Greenham Henery; 22/12/1808 (74)
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: danishdots on Sunday 22 August 10 17:26 BST (UK)
Very interesting :)  Will now have a look there!!  None of the family knew of the Greenham ancestor - so they will all be very interested... many thanks.

Danishdots
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Jack2227 on Tuesday 02 November 10 20:34 GMT (UK)
IGP Leix Archives- Sharon Haggerty
Clonenagh Baptisims
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1837;
Jessie Victoria; father, Robert Greenham-mother Jane

1838;
Jane; father-Robert Greenham (cotton shinner)-mother-Jane, Mountrath

1841;
Robert James;-Robert-Jane.
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Lewis (Top Dict) 1836
from Wikiipedia, the free encyclopedia;
An extensive factory for spinning and weaving cotton is carried out by Mr. Greenham, who employes 150 persons in the spinning mills and about 500 in weaving calicoes at their houses.
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Griffiths Valuation, Borris, Maryborough

Bull Mrs Jane; Maryborough, Main st

Greenham Mrs Margaret; Maryborough, Factory lane.
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: PJC on Thursday 25 November 10 10:36 GMT (UK)
I am interested in all things "Greenham"! In fact I set up the blog which gives an index of Irish Greenhams from 1600 to 1800: http://earliestgreenhamsinireland.blogspot.com/
James Dyas Greenham was my 3 x great grandfather. (I have his silver teapot with his initials!) He had 2 marriages with 8 children from the first and 3 from the second (my line).
Robert Greenham was a son from the 1st marriage to Jane E. Hornidge, christened, St. Catherine's, Dublin 4 Jul 1803. He married Jane Moon from Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland on 3 Oct 1836 and settled in Mountrath where he was involved in the family business of cotton milling. When it failed, he emigrated with his wife and 3 of his children, arriving Melbourne, Australia 9 Mar 1857, and has living descendants in New South Wales.
Robert and Jane's children were:
* Jessie Victoria Greenham, ch. 7 Jul 1837, Clonernagh and Clonagheen Parish, Mountrath
* Jane Greenham, ch 29 Sep 1838, Clonernagh...; m. James Patton MacKenzie, Victoria, Australia, 1862, 7 children; d. Melbourne 25 Jan 1925
* Margaret Greenham, b. Mountrath, abt. 1843; d. Melbourne 4 Apr 1914
* Robert James Greenham, ch. 29 Jul 1841, Clonernagh...;mar. Catherine Florence Spicer, 1877, Victoria, Australia, 2 children; d. Sydney, NSW

Peter
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Jack2227 on Sunday 02 January 11 21:09 GMT (UK)
The Argus, Melbourne Victoria 1869;

On the 14th inst. at Sandridge, Robert Greenham, late Cotton Mills Mountrath Queens County Ireland, in his sixty-fifth year of his age.
Home papers please copy.

Jack
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Lance Matthews on Friday 26 August 11 15:02 BST (UK)
I have a Jane Bull who married William Matthews and is buried in St.Peters C. of I. Portlaoise along with a photo of their headstone.
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Jack2227 on Tuesday 13 December 11 20:37 GMT (UK)
The Argus Melbourne 1914;

3/4/1914, at her sisters residence, Mizpar, 199 Bridport st, Albert Park,
Miss Margaret Greenham (70)
youngest daughter of late Robert Greenham, Mountrath Cotton Mills, Queens County Ireland
grand-daughter of
late George Moon, Russell Mill, Cupar Fyfe Scotland
sister of Mrs J P Mac Kenzie & Robert James Greenham Sydney NSW.
"saved by grace"
==========
Jack
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: danishdots on Tuesday 28 August 12 21:11 BST (UK)
I have really fallen behind in this side of the research!!  Apologies for not getting back.  Lance mentioned a Jane Bull married to a William Mathews.  Do you have any more details please- I have ?John down as husband but just don't know?

Danishdots
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Lance Matthews on Saturday 30 May 20 22:00 BST (UK)
Did you ever sort out your Bulls of Maryborough (Portlaoise)
William Matthews married Jane Bull. They had 5 children.
Jane Bull had a sister called Amelia who married Joseph James Wilson in 1877 in the Mountmellick district.
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Throth on Sunday 07 March 21 21:42 GMT (UK)
We are working on the Moon families in the Dundee area, and came across the baptism of Margaret Greenham, 4th December 1843 (Cults in Fife Old Parish Register), daughter of Robert Greenham and Jane (Jean) Moon.

Cupar OPR, 1836
Robert Greenham, cotton spinner of the parish of Mountrath, Queens County (now County Laois) in Ireland, and Jane Moon, second daughter of George Moon of Russell Mill of this parish, married 3rd October by the Rev. John Moon, Minister of Newtyle.

The minister was married to Jane's sister Penelope Moon. Their father, George Moon, was hailed as a pioneer of flax spinning in north-east Scotland.

Throth
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 08 March 21 09:52 GMT (UK)

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William Matthews married Jane Bull. They had 5 children.

Here's the link to their marriage in 1877. William Matthews a compositor.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11136/8078102.pdf

In 1901 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Maryborough_Urban/Quality_Row_or_Coburg_Street/1649655/

In 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Maryborough_Urban/Maryborough__Part_of__Quality_Row/913856/


KG

Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 09 March 21 10:03 GMT (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qe6/

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qe7/
Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 09 March 21 10:45 GMT (UK)
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Jane Bull had a sister called Amelia who married Joseph James Wilson in 1877 in the Mountmellick district.

Joseph WILSON married Amelia BULL on 30th December 1872 in Maryborough Church of Ireland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11325/8156618.pdf

This was likely her death in 1893.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05984/4702171.pdf


KG

Title: Re: Greenham Family or Bull Family
Post by: SimonAusSwiss on Monday 03 June 24 08:10 BST (UK)
Thank you this is very helpful. I am an Australian descended through Robert Greenham and Jane Moon who migrated to Australia. On DNA I am often matched through this maternal line to people in the USA but don't know where the link it. Maybe one of Jane Moon's siblings (i.e. children of George Moon) migrated to USA. Any ideas ?
We are working on the Moon families in the Dundee area, and came across the baptism of Margaret Greenham, 4th December 1843 (Cults in Fife Old Parish Register), daughter of Robert Greenham and Jane (Jean) Moon.

Cupar OPR, 1836
Robert Greenham, cotton spinner of the parish of Mountrath, Queens County (now County Laois) in Ireland, and Jane Moon, second daughter of George Moon of Russell Mill of this parish, married 3rd October by the Rev. John Moon, Minister of Newtyle.

The minister was married to Jane's sister Penelope Moon. Their father, George Moon, was hailed as a pioneer of flax spinning in north-east Scotland.

Throth