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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: BridgetM on Wednesday 18 August 10 23:13 BST (UK)
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This what I have so far:
Item a fedder (feather?) bed a b____ ij sheets? a h_____ & a coverlet xiiis iiiid
Item ij p____ of bed stock with certain clothes in the cellar jxs iiijd
Item in the pl____ one tryndle (trundle?) bed ij sheets a presser? a pair of
____ ____ ij boards vs
Item in one other chamber a bed a board & ij ____
ij h______ & blanket & a sheet iij__ iiid
Item in the loft ij pair of bedstock & a board iijs
Item a p__ of shear shear boards with other working gear xiis iiid
Item a c______ & a _______ board xxs
Item a d_____ board a chair a ____ with other _____ vjs
Item ____ puder (pewter?) vessel a chafing d____ & a frying pan xjs iiijd
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Line 1:
looks like ‘borstr’ – I think it’s ‘bolster’ or a variant spelling of it: ‘happing’
From a certain dictionary, which shall be nameless:
HAP - 1. trans. To cover up or over. 1570 LEVINS Manip. 27/18 Happe, to cover.
They don’t actually quote the word ‘happing’ but I think it’s a likely formation, a warm covering.
2. I think ‘pe’ is his abbreviation for ‘pare’
3. ‘place’? : ‘presse’ (press, cupboard): ‘m------ s------‘ looks like ‘musterte stonnes’. I thought it must be mustard spoons but then I though no, this is a fairly basic age, would they have dedicated mustard spoons?? So perhaps a local variant of OED’s ‘mustard-quern’, some kind of a mustard-grinding implement?
4. I think it’s ‘forms’(benches) and yet more ‘happings’.
6. ‘p[ar]e’, pair.
7. cowntter? Counter, a table. Dunno : ‘cuppe bowrde’, cupboard?
8. ‘dis[h]bowrde’, dishboard? Not in OED, but if you can have a cup board....: ‘trysse’? possibly I’m misreading ‘trynck’ or trunk, but a ‘truss’ could mean a pack, things in a bundle: ‘stolls’, stools?
9. After ‘chafing’ it looks like ‘dice’ which I think must be how they were saying ‘dish’ Numerous variant spellings of dish include(deep breath): disc, dischs, diss, disch, -e, dise, dych, di sch, dissch, -e, dyssh, -e, disshe, dishe, dyssche, dysch, dysche, diszshe, dish.
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Wow, Slam, you're amazing!!
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No but I like guessing games. :) Though not all my guesses pan out.
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Item ij p____ of bed stock with certain clothes in the cellar jxs iiijd
I think the word is 'sollare' i.e. an upper room in the house, not cellar.
As slam suggested here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,476164.msg3357144.html#msg3357144
Jennifer
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Thanks, Jennifer. It makes much more sense to keep valuables in a loft, rather than in the cellar!
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Does the missing word here look more like plare than place--though what a plare is, I don't know!
Item in the pl____ one tryndle (trundle?) bed 2 sheets a press a pair of mustard? stones 2 boards 5s.
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From a certain dictionary, which shall be nameless:
Slam,
I think if I keep transcribing old wills I'm going to need a copy of the nameless dictionary. Do you have the 20-something volume edition, which costs a small fortune!!--or is there a less expensive version that would be good enough for what I need it for?
Bridget
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I think the missing room is p[ar]lare i.e. parlour. The straight stroke through the letter p is a standard abbreviation for per or par at this time (see also p[ar]e for pair in the line above). Am stuck on the "musterste stonne" tho'!
Ermy
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Thanks, Ermy! Parlour certainly makes sense in context.
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The OED I use is the online edition, available in your own home, entirely free, to members of our local library service. God bless libraries!
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Thanks, Slam. I'll see if the OED is available free online here in the Deep South. Somehow, I doubt it ;)
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Line 3.
2 pairs of bed stocks (bedsteads) with curten cloiths (curtain cloths) in the sollare (solar)
I too am very puzzled by, for want of better words, mustard spoons. (which I read as musterstre stamre!!!) I think it likely to be something that is found in a bed chamber as those compiling inventories would commonly be moving from room to room.
Hephzibah
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kyndle bedding not tryndle
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I think you'll find it is tryndle (i.e. trundle). What looks like a 'k' at the start of the word is actually a 'tr'.
Jennifer
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What year is that from?
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Vasquez109,
This will was written and proved in 1560 in Whinfell, in Westmorland.
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In line 8, could this word be trust? It looks like tryste. (I don't know if there's an archaic meaning for trust--i.e. a chest, a safe?)
Item a dish board a chair a trust with other stools
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I'm not sure it is trust, the same as I'm not sure about this..........
It looks to me that it should be trunk but the writer has got in a muddle as to the spelling and has written tryke - I'm very unsure that it is a 'k' and the 'n' is missing!!!!
Slam's pennyworth may well be more on the right track.
Well, we have to explore every option, don't we!!!!!!!!
Hephzibah
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I too read it as "tryste" - I wonder if it could be a trestle table, the other furniture mentioned does suggest an eating area?
Ermy