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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: Sandykt on Tuesday 17 August 10 14:03 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find some information about my G G Grandfather, John Munro(e). I know he was born in 1837 and he died on 20 Oct 1905 in West Ham, London. He married Susannah Barker on 25 Dec 1868 at St Thomas Church, Stepney. They had 8 children.
Elizbabeth b.1870 - d.1871
Mary Jane b.1872 d.1964
John b.1875 d.1918
Alexander b.1877 d.1956
Susannah b.1879
Joseph b.1882 d.1922
Thomas b.1885
Arthur b.1887 d.1920
My main query is on all of the Census records it just says John Munro(e) b.1837 was born in "Scotland" - I cannot find any information about exactly where he was born. I do know from his marriage certificate that his father was called Alexander and that when he married in 1869 his father, Alexander, is recorded as deceased. Any information about my G G Grandfather would be much appreciated. His occupation was a Ship's Clerk.
Thank you!
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Hi
Unfortunately - there are 5 possible 1841 entries with a father Alexander. I have listed location, birthyear and mothers name below
In all cases surname is spelt Munro - no entries with a father Alexander for Munroe or Monroe
Renfrewshire - 1836 - Elizabeth
Ross & Cromarty - 1837 - Jess
Midlothian - 1837 - Hellen
Ross & Cromarty - 1838 - Isabela
Aberdeen- 1838 - Ann
Gorbals Lanarkshire but not born there - 1838 - Chris
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Thanks Carole,
Do you think the only way to find out is to order Birth Certificates or would there be another way?
Thanks again
Sandra
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Registration of births in Scotland didn't start until 1855.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&402
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OK, so if Birth Certificates is out - how do I go about finding out more information?
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Being honest - with great difficulty at the moment. If he had married in Scotland - no problem - as mum's name and maiden name would have been shown on the marriage cert
The marriage cert does not show any occupation for his father - just "Deceased" as that may possibly have helped in elimination. Neither of the witnesses were surname Munro/e so no help there
The English 1861 census has an entry for a John Munro b 1837 and a soldier at Charing Cross Barracks. His is the only entry with an actual birthplace and one that links to an entry I showed above - Kiltearn Ross & Cromarty - whilst all others just show Scotland
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Do any of the children have middle names?
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No middle names, as far as I am aware.
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1841 census
Alexr Munro 40 Occupation: Brass Founder
Elizabeth Munro 40
Alexr Munro 9
Daniel Munro 7
John Munro 5 Born Renfrewshire
Elizabeth Munro 2
Address: Baker Str
Civil parish: Greenock East
County: Renfrewshire
Alex Munro 45 Occupation: Mer S (merchant seaman?)
Jess Munro 35
Catharine Munro 6
John Munro 4
Donald Munro 1
Civil parish: Kiltearn
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: Sowlis
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Hi Sancti
My reply above
Unfortunately - there are 5 possible 1841 entries with a father Alexander. I have listed location, birthyear and mothers name below
In all cases surname is spelt Munro - no entries with a father Alexander for Munroe or Monroe
Renfrewshire - 1836 - Elizabeth
Ross & Cromarty - 1837 - Jess
Midlothian - 1837 - Hellen
Ross & Cromarty - 1838 - Isabela
Aberdeen- 1838 - Ann
Gorbals Lanarkshire but not born there - 1838 - Chris
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There were several Munro families living in London and Middlesex U.K. during the 1800s and I believe that one of my ancestors was a John Munro, who was born in approximately 1784 at, or near, Marylebone/Paddington U.K., who worked as a tailor and was married with several children.
John Munro's wife may have been named Ann, but I don't know her surname before her marriage.
I believe that their children may have included the following....
Joseph Munro born approximately 1818,
John Talbot (or Talbot John) Munro born approximately 1823,
Mary Ann Munro born approximately 1829 who married Charles Talbot (or Talbert),
Emma Elizabeth Munro born approximately 1831,
Alfred James Munro born approximately 1836.
There may have been more children born to John Munro and his wife, including two more daughters, (Harriet and Louise), but I'm not certain.
It's possible that other researchers have more details.
This appears to be quite a prolific familily as the further generations of Munro and Talbot had many children in London and beyond. One of Charles Talbot's descendants emigrated to Australia and was the father, or grandfather, of a Mayor of Melbourne.
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Not sure if this is any help but there is this family on
1851 Census Inverness
Alexander......head......60......Ships Carpenter......Inverness
Anne ......wife ......56......................................Ross and Cromarty
John...............Son........33 .....Sailor......................Inverness (unmarried)
Euphemia.......Daug.....20......................................Inverness "
Donald ...........Son.......15......................................Inverness
John...............Son........12......Scholar....................Inverness
could it be possible that the second John is the grandson of Alexander
but named him as his father on marriage cert
Elaine