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Title: GROVES Lookup please!!
Post by: hannah9000 on Sunday 15 August 10 20:33 BST (UK)
Looking for a Reginald E Groves who married Florence Kingsbury in Wells in June 1927. I can't find him on the 1911 census or any other details about him :( could someone please see if they can find him so I can get details of his parents?
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 August 10 20:37 BST (UK)
Hi

Where and when was he born

What was his second christian name in full as there are a number of Reginald E Groves  (Ernest, Edward, Edwin) births on freebmd

You really need to buy a copy of the 1927 marriage cert which will give you his fathers name and occupation and also Reginalds age
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: rutht22000 on Sunday 15 August 10 20:38 BST (UK)
Hi

Do you know what year or where he died?

I've found a Reginald Ernest Groves, dying in 1989 in Mendip area, Somerset, born 31 October 1902.

Regards
Ruth
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: hannah9000 on Sunday 15 August 10 20:44 BST (UK)
I've found him also...I think that's definitely him as they married in Wells so Mendips would be the right area. I can't find any parent details though..
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 August 10 20:49 BST (UK)
If he was only born in 1902 - you would need to look for him on the 1911 census

1911 lookups are not allowed due to breach of copyright

You would need to check for a birth for him first on freebmd to establish where he was born


USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Once you find the right person - make a note of the county and district in which they were living

Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else

In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district

In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index

Click SEARCH
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: rutht22000 on Sunday 15 August 10 20:50 BST (UK)
It'll be the marriage certificate or the 1911 census to find at least his father.  

The 1902 birth registration that is a possible for him gives birth area as Devizes in Wiltshire

Any chance he could have been known as Ernest instead?
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 August 10 20:51 BST (UK)
A possibility

Births March qtr 1902 
 
Reginald Ernest Groves   Devizes  5a 105


Can't be the right one if born 31.10.1902
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 August 10 20:53 BST (UK)
The only match to a birthdate of 31.10.1902 is this one - but no middle name

Births December qtr 1902 
 
Reginald Groves   Bedwelty  11a 78
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: rutht22000 on Sunday 15 August 10 20:54 BST (UK)
That's true about the October birth...was just about to go and check that bit again... ;D
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 August 10 21:00 BST (UK)
There is no Florence Kingsbury birth in Somerset so it's possible/probable that Reginald was not born there either

You need the marriage cert
Title: Re: Groves Lookup please!!
Post by: hannah9000 on Monday 16 August 10 08:51 BST (UK)
Florence Kingsbury was born in Chilton Polden, Somerset according to the 1911 census...I'm thinking that perhaps Reginald didn't come from the Somerset area...I will order the marriage certificate. Thanks all :)
Title: Re: GROVES Lookup please!!
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 August 10 20:13 BST (UK)
Florence was not her main name

Births December qtr 1905
 
Edith F M Kingsbury   Bridgwater  5c 298
Title: Re: GROVES Lookup please!!
Post by: hannah9000 on Tuesday 17 August 10 08:54 BST (UK)
That's definitely correct! I was told that she was called Edith but the 1911 census said florence so I thought my source got confused as her mum is called Edith too.

Reginald Groves was born Reginald Patches/Patch...he was illegitimate and went on to live with and become a Groves..