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Title: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: Leeeeeese on Saturday 14 August 10 12:11 BST (UK)
Good Morning - I'm a newbie to this site and am hoping someone can 'point me in the right direction'...please??

I am having terrible problems researching ancestors on my maternal side... 'Common names' and a lack of information being the cause.... :-\

Known facts
My G-Grandmother was Margaret Cottrell - born 1875 in Neston. Her Father was Thomas Cottrell
She married John Scott Butler on 2nd March 1905 (she was 30 at this time).On her marriage certificate her father Thomas was deceased, his occupation showing as a 'Farmer'.
Margaret and John had a son called Thomas (my maternal G/father - he dies as a result of war injuries in 1945) End of facts...

When I try and locate her on any census information I cannot link anything directly... I thought I had found her on the 1881 census, but am puzzled as the age is incorrect and her mother appeared to be having children in her 50's....

Is anyone else researching my Margaret Cottrell?

Many thanks in advance for any 'pointers' you can give.
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: allibaker on Saturday 14 August 10 12:45 BST (UK)
this could be a possible in 1891 but doesnt help with family
living at farm house burton
jane cordiner 72yrs widow farmer
thomas 44yrs married son
lydia 47yrs married daughter in law
mary 19yrs unmarried grandaughter
william.m 16yrs grandson farm worker
john.r 13yrs grandson
mark.h 37yrs unmarried son farmer
john rigby 21yrs living on own means
william gerrard 19yrs servant
stephens ? 17yrs servant
margaret cottrell 15yrs unmarried servant born neston
micheal mulby 21yrs servant born ireland
SOURCE INFO-RG12-2871
FOLIO-14
PAGE-9
regards
alli
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: allibaker on Saturday 14 August 10 12:47 BST (UK)
the only margaret cottrell of correct age and place of birth showing on the 1881 has a father robert so cannot be your girl
regards
alli
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: Leeeeeese on Saturday 14 August 10 12:59 BST (UK)
Alli

Thanks for your prompt response... I'd missed the 'Burton' link... I'll just have to keep hunting...

Lisa
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 14 August 10 17:02 BST (UK)
Hiya Leeeeeese ...just to confirm for you on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk   1875
COTTREL Margaret   Neston  Wirral   NES/13.42
she married John Scott Butler in Stockport - do you know how old she was when she left Neston ?....Neston to Stockport is about 40 miles ...
Allan
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 14 August 10 17:10 BST (UK)
Did John and Margaret move to Bristol and then Cambridge ?....allan
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: Leeeeeese on Saturday 14 August 10 17:17 BST (UK)
Hi Allan

I don't know how old she was when she left Neston, but I do remember stories of her living, for a time, in the Isle of Man, and that before her marriage she was in domestic service - probably in Stockport (My GG Grandfather John Scott Butler was a postman, he delivered the post to where-ever it was she was living/working)...

The address on her marriage certificate is Bayerne Cheadle Road.

Thank you so much for your interest and help...really appreciated!

Lisa

PS: Allan have just seen your query as to whether Margaret and John had lived in Bristol and Cambridge... they did not. Once married they lived out their lives in the Stockport area (from memory I think it was Edgeley...
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: nestonlad on Thursday 19 August 10 13:13 BST (UK)
check out the curious fox website and look under neston,there is a lady looking for willaston cottrells and i sent her a couple of photos from c1910 with members of the cottrell family.Some lived in a thatched cottage at the end of mill lane in ness and the others owned the post office in burton i think they could be part of your cottrell family
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: Leeeeeese on Thursday 19 August 10 13:43 BST (UK)
Hi Nestonlad,

How fabulous! - Thank you I'll do just that... :D

It would be great to find a link wiht someone on the Cottrell side...many times I have wondered if my Cottrells really existed... ;D

It's made all the more difficult because there are so many with the same Christian names and I have so very little to go on...

You've restored my hopes!...I'll let you know the outcome. :)

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: nestonlad on Thursday 19 August 10 13:50 BST (UK)
No Problem,if you send me your email in a personal email i will send you the two pictures with the cottrell family members on them
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: nestonlad on Thursday 19 August 10 14:03 BST (UK)
Check out this site as well,if you put the name cottrell in the search box it will tell you the names of cottrells and the land they owned/rented in the area (cheshire),could be of some use for you

http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/Search.aspx
Title: Re: Margaret Cottrell - Ness/Neston 1875 - Needle in a Haystack???
Post by: maidmarianoops on Thursday 19 August 10 14:23 BST (UK)
hi this may fit somewhere
sylvia


Cheshire 1881 Census

 Robert  Cottrell 30 Head Collier                           Neston  Bridge Street Great Neston
 Marion           "            36 Wife Colliers Wife         Neston      "
 Mary J 12                Daughter                     "
 Maria 8                    Daughter
 Margaret 5                   Daughter          "
 Thomas 3                   Son                                '
Emma 14M                Daughter                     "                       "




 
 1881 census
Thomas  Cottrell 30  Head  Warehouseman  Neston Cheshire  4 Dorrit Street Toxteth Park Lancs     
 Jane            " 30  Wife   Liverpool lancs   
  Jane A          " 7  Daughter         "