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Title: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 14 August 10 09:43 BST (UK)
 Why would this man be listed as `deported` would he have done something wrong ?
I have him in 1911 at the same address , over the years  he was a cotton worker / overlooker / manager and I am certain I have him dying in Russia in 1916.
At some time about 1897 he had a son born in France.
 An intruiging man.
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: johnnyboy on Sunday 15 August 10 00:03 BST (UK)
Hi Wilcoxon: First, since the ship on which Rawdon Wright was deported was the Lusitania, can you decipher and post the date of its arrival in the U.K. and the port at which it docked. To me the date looks like April 1, 1915, a month before its sinking on May 1, 1915. Can't even begin to read the name of the port.

Now to Rawdon Wright:

I found Rawdon Wright arriving in New York on April 24, 1914 from Liverpool aboard the Mauretania. Nothing seems to be amiss on the passenger manifest. He was 44 years old, wife was in Elland on Catherine St., he had $50.00. His destination was Providence, Rhode Island and his contact there was "friend" Tim Rooley(?), no address.

He was not a polygamist nor an anarchist. His mental and physical health were good; he was not deformed or crippled. U.S. immigration law provided for the deportation of persons found to be physically, mentally, or morally defective. That's why questions about political beliefs and behavior were asked.

Judging from the lack of comment by immigration people on the manifest, he must have done something after he arrived in the U.S. to warrant being deported. Do you know what his politics were? Socialists were frowned upon in certain circles, but anarchists were seen at that time as a greater threat in the U.S. The fact that you say he died in Russia in 1916 makes me suspect a political motive behind his deportation. Do you know the circumstances of his death?

John  :o :o :o
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: danuslave on Sunday 15 August 10 00:08 BST (UK)
The Lusitania arrived 6/1/1915 in Lpool (transcribed as Liverpool)

As well as being deported, his Profession, Occupation or Calling is shown as 'None'

Linda
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: johnnyboy on Sunday 15 August 10 00:46 BST (UK)
Hi Linda: I originally thought the arrival date was June 1, 1915. But unfortunately, the Lusitania was sunk off the coast of Ireland a month earlier, on May 7, 1915. Handwriting on the manifest is a little too cursive. I thought Wilcoxon might have other information about when the Lusitania arrived.

John  :o :o :o
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: danuslave on Sunday 15 August 10 01:20 BST (UK)
Hi John

You're apparently reading it the American way - I assumed 6th January 1915 (which is the way it has been transcribed)  :D

Linda
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: johnnyboy on Sunday 15 August 10 02:02 BST (UK)
Well, that makes sense.  ???
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: Erato on Sunday 15 August 10 02:19 BST (UK)
I think this may be the friend in Providence:

1910 census - 420 Waterman Road, District 110, Johnston, Providence, RI

Rowley, Timothy, head, married 24 years, b. England, parents b. England, immigrated 1905, naturalized, combmaker, rubber, own home, mortgaged
Nancy, wife, 45, married 24 years, 8 children/7 living, b. England, parents b. England, immigrated 1906, no occupation
Ada, daughter, 22, single, b. England, immigrated 1906, weaver, woolen mill
Fred, son, 19, single, b. England, immigrated 1906, driller, rubber works
Minnie, daughter, 16, single, b. England, immigrated 1906, spinner, woolen mill
Joseph, son, 14, b. England, immigrated 1906, doffer, woolen mill
Ellis, son, 6, b. England, immigrated 1906,
Elsie, daughter, 3, b. Rhode Island
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: johnnyboy on Sunday 15 August 10 06:27 BST (UK)
Could be a match, Erato.

John  :o :o :o
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 15 August 10 12:59 BST (UK)
In 1911
Rawdon 48 is living at 133 Catherine St, he is an `overlooker`
two of his daughters are `Weaver Woolen` and his  youngest son who was born in France in 1897 is a `pattern maker.

In 1901 he is a `W(ool) combing  manager` living in Shipley
Rawdon was born in Cleckheaton, Yorkshire.

In 1901 Timothy Rowley 36, wife Nancy 36 and family are living in Halifax Yorks. He is a wool comber at Machine works, daughters Clara and Ada are worsted spinners. Fred , Minnie and Joseph are too young to work.

 This looks like Rawdons` friend. Perhaps the wool trade took them to America, and it seems the area of Russia where Rawdon died produced cotton. It `s possible he travelled overseas with his trade setting up factories.

I don`t know anything about his religous or political views, but to be deported he must have upset somebody. Wish I could find out.









Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: Erato on Sunday 15 August 10 13:19 BST (UK)
I poked around a bit looking for some connection to union organizing, labor unrest, strikes, or political agitation in the textile mills or in the rubber industry at that time, but no luck so far.
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: Erato on Sunday 15 August 10 19:11 BST (UK)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_deported_from_the_United_States

“The types of individuals that could be deported from the United States was later [after 1882] reclassified to include those who were insane or carrying a disease, convicts, prostitutes, those entering the United States over the immigration quotas, anarchists, and those that belonged to organizations which supported the overthrow of the United States government by use of violence. ......  Legislation enacted by the United Sates Congress in 1891 gave a time limit of one year after an alien entered the country for the individual to be deported and decreased judicial review of deportation proceedings.”
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: DannieB on Wednesday 04 December 13 13:08 GMT (UK)
Interesting - I have a deportee I am researching, about the same time and place.

John McGarrity was born in County Tyrone, Ireland, 1866, moved to Manchester, married Ellen McQueen in 1889 (born Lancashire to a Scottish father/Lancs mother), had 1 daughter in 1896. I have them in Lancashire in the 1891 and 1901 UK Census. John was a shop porter in 1891 and a musician in 1901. The family left England shortly after 1901 - I have mother and daughter arriving New York 13 Oct 1904. I have not found a US arrival record for John, but the family of 3 are in Pawtucket, Providence County, Rhode Island, in the 1910 US Census, and John was working as a fireman in the boiler room of the cotton mill.

April 6, 1915, John arrives Glasgow, deported, on board the Tuscania. A few days later, he is back in Lancashire and enlists in the Army. According to his pension record, John served only 43 days, before being discharged as medically unfit. His death was registered in Salford, Lancashire in the 3rd quarter of 1916.

John is possibly a first cousin of Joe McGarrity, the Tyrone-Philadelphia Clan na Gael man. If he was active in support of the Irish cause, deportation might have resulted from those actions.

This link might be useful in researching deportation http://www.uscis.gov/history-and-genealogy/genealogy/genealogy-notebook/researching-deportation-records

Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: codowdell on Thursday 09 July 15 04:29 BST (UK)
Minnie Rowley, 16 year old daughter of Timothy Rowley was my Great Grandmother.  I will see what I can find out.  Could Rawden actually be Rowley?
Title: Re: deported 1915 New York to Liverpool
Post by: ScouseBoy on Tuesday 14 July 15 19:51 BST (UK)
At one time, the immigrants to the USA were individually medically checked out.

Those who failed the examination  were not allowed into the USA  and had to return from whence they came.