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Title: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Celtic Kelly on Saturday 14 August 10 00:01 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am trying to locate the birth record for my gt grandmother Harriet Ann Shedwick. I can find her on the 1891 & 1901 census listed as born in Bradford/Manchester abt 1883. I also have her marr cert to Thomas Henry Hand but cannot find any record of her birth.

Her father's name is Alfred and her mother's name is Catherine (born in Ireland)

Many thanks,

Kelly
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Hollander on Saturday 14 August 10 00:10 BST (UK)
Hi Kelly.

Could this be her?

Harriet Shedwick, Jan/Mar quarter 1884, Prestwich District. Vol. 8d Page 342 refers.

It could be the parents only decided on a second baptismal name after registration.

EDIT
Sincere apologies - above should be SEDGWICK.

That's what comes of not wearing my specs.  :(
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: teaurn on Saturday 14 August 10 00:15 BST (UK)
An Albert Shedwick married in Prestwich in Sept 1882 there is also a Catherine McGarn Vol 8d page 480
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: teaurn on Saturday 14 August 10 00:25 BST (UK)
The Harriet you have found is the closest that I can see Finbar :-\
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Celtic Kelly on Saturday 14 August 10 00:34 BST (UK)
Hi Finbar,

Thanks for the quick response. I don't think that is her though, that Harriet Sedgwick b1883 is listed on the 1901 census as part of a different family.

Hi tearrn,

Yes, those are her parents. On the 1891 census Catherine also has a son listed as James McGarn, also born in Ireland (half brother to John & Harriet?) so I wonder if she was married before in which case I still don't know her maiden name.
I have also found her & Alfred's marriage listed on the Lancs BMD with the names Catherine McGarn or Catherine Ruling so am further confused as to which is her poss maiden name! Will prob have to send for cert but ideally wanted to find Harriet's birth first to be sure she was def her mother.

Thanks for the info guys.

Kelly
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Hollander on Saturday 14 August 10 00:36 BST (UK)
Hi Kelly.

There is a Harriet Ann Shedwick registered at Rochdale in Oct/Dec quarter of 1890, Vol. 8e Page 18 refers.

I know the date is a good eight years out, but perhaps worth bearing in mind.
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Celtic Kelly on Saturday 14 August 10 00:48 BST (UK)
Good to know, thanks Finbar. Interestingly I can't find any other ref to a Harriet Ann b1890 in the censuses or death records so, who knows, maybe that is her! Not sure how/why an extra 7/8yrs would be added to her age though. Most women try to take years off not add them!  ;)
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Manchester on Tuesday 27 July 21 22:03 BST (UK)
Lancashire BMD shows a baptism of Henrietta Anna Shedwick born April 25 1888, parents Alfred Shedwick and Catherine Shedwick nee Keelan baptized December 12 1911.
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Celtic Kelly on Tuesday 27 July 21 23:11 BST (UK)
That looks like her, thanks Manchester! Although the dates don’t make sense. Perhaps a transcription error??
I can’t find baptisms on Lancashire BMD, do you have a link?
Many thanks.
CK
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Dundee on Wednesday 28 July 21 04:11 BST (UK)
I think that both John and Harriet were illegitimate.

KEELAN, JOHN
No mother's maiden name indexed
GRO Reference: 1877  M Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 402

KEELAN, HARRIET  ANN      
No mother's maiden name indexed
GRO Reference: 1882  J Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 379

John is "John K." in 1891.

In 1881 Catherine has a daughter, Alice A. aged 1 and born at Manchester.

Piece   4017,  Folio 71, Page number 10

KEELING, ALICE  ANN
No mother's maiden name indexed
GRO Reference: 1880  J Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 401

There is a death for an Alice Ann KEELAN

KEELAN, ALICE  ANN
Aged 1 
GRO Reference: 1881  S Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 191

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 July 21 07:25 BST (UK)
Could  this be her baptism but with the wrong birth date?
Baptism: 11 Aug 1898 St Brigid, Bradford, Lancashire, England

Harrietta Keelan - filia Petri Keelan & Catherinae (formerly Mackey)
Born: 18 Jul 1898
Abode: 4 Side St., Clayton
Godparents: Harriette Shedwick
Baptised by: Thoma Moylan

Was she baptised after Alfred's death?

Same address as 1901 census.

Added:
Not sure about this now as there is also a birth registered for a Harriet Keelan in 1898 Newton district of Manchester
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 July 21 08:16 BST (UK)
This could be the family in 1881
38 Chatham Street, Bradford Manchester
Peter Kellen Head 20 born Ireland Labourer at Chemical Works
Catherine Kellen   Wife 20 born Manchester Piecer in cotton Mill
Ann Kellen   Daughter 2 born Manchester
Margaret Mc Loughlin   Lodger 21 born Manchester Doubler in Cotton Mill
Mary E. Mc Loughlin Daughter 11 months born Bradford, Manchester
Catherine Keelan Lodger 24 Widow born Ireland Charwoman
James Keelan Son 7 born Ireland
John Keelan Son 4 born Manchester
Alice A. Keelan Daughter 1 born Manchester
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: heatherjulie on Wednesday 28 July 21 08:17 BST (UK)
Baptism: 11 Apr 1880 St Francis, Gorton, Lancashire, England
Alicia Anna Keelan - filia Catharinae Keelan
Born: 10 Mar 1880
Godparents: Catharina Keelan
Baptised by: F. Alexio Bulens O.S.F.
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: Manchester on Wednesday 28 July 21 22:34 BST (UK)
Henrietta was baptized on December 12 1911 as a condition of her marriage to Thomas Hand. The baptism is on the Lancashire Online parish clerk website. 
Title: Re: Missing Birth - Shedwick 1883
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 29 July 21 06:45 BST (UK)
Baptism: 12 Dec 1911 St Brigid, Bradford, Lancashire, England
Henrietta Anna Shedwick - filia Alfredi Shedwick & Catherinae (formerly Keelan)
Born: 25 Apr 1888
Notes: Conditional. Ipsa anno 1911 die 16 mensis Decembris matrimonium contraxit cum
Thoma Hand in ecclesia St. Brigidae apud Mancunium. G. Sassen
Baptised by: Gulielmo Sassen