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Title: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Spaniel on Thursday 12 August 10 23:31 BST (UK)

I am looking for the Nicholas family from Ruabon c. 1860, particularly JANE NICHOLAS b.1842, Ruabon, D/O John Nicholas, a collier. She married EDWARD JONES of Caergwrle at Hope Parich Church 25 Aug, 1860. They had 5 children; Mary b. 1862, John b.1865, David b. 1868, Margaret b.1871 and Sarah Jane b. 1872. Mary & John were born in Cergwrle, David & Margaret were born in Stoke-on-Trent, and Sarah Jane in Ashton in Makerfield. They then returned to live in Caergwrle and I believe that sometime between Sarah Jane's birth in 1872 and the 1881 census Jane died. This is my problem - I can't find her death.....can anyone help please?!
Many Thanks
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: heywood on Friday 13 August 10 12:07 BST (UK)
Hello,

I was trying to find the family in 1881 and then found your other thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,474595.msg3340554.html#msg3340554
which explains a bit more. It will help avoid doubling up on information .

Could Jane have died in Lancashire?

heywood
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Spaniel on Friday 13 August 10 19:03 BST (UK)
Hi Heywood,

Many thanks for your input - I apologise for the doubling up of the request - but I'm new to this & very much a learner!!!

Everyone is so helpful....so THANKS to all!!

I've looked for her in Lancashire - but no joy there either........

I'll keep looking - but it's so frustrating!!

Thanks again,

Spaniel
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Gadget on Friday 13 August 10 19:58 BST (UK)
It's here as well  :-\

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,474935.0.html


Gadget
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Spaniel on Saturday 14 August 10 10:26 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone & continued thanks for your help.....and patience!!

I've checked with Wrexham Registry Office and the deaths in
Jul/Aug/Sept 1877
Apr/May/Jun 1876
Jul/Aug/Sept 1879 are NOT her.

The search continues!!!
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: heywood on Saturday 14 August 10 10:51 BST (UK)
Does your elimination process include the June quarter 1877, Prescot?

It's probably not her as there is at least one other Jane Jones in 1871 who could fit for this death  :(
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 15 August 10 07:56 BST (UK)
Hi Heywood  :)

How did you think that Prescot might be a possible? I was looking for a Wigan death reg. for Ashton in Makerfield. i might have been wrong as I just used Genuki to check  ???

Jane Jones isn't that rare  :-\



Gadget
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: heywood on Sunday 15 August 10 16:05 BST (UK)
Hi Gadget,

I do get mixed up between those places around Wigan/Widnes/St Helens but I had looked for a birth for Sarah Jane 1872  - and there was one in Prescot, but not Wigan  ::).
Therefore, wondering if this was her (and I realise it's more than likely not) perhaps her mother died soon afterwards and lo and behold there was a Prescot death. I put 2 and 2 together to make what in this case is probably not 4.
Since your query- I have seen a Sarah Jane birth in Wigan in 1873 which is perhaps the right one.

Apologies to all.  ;)
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 15 August 10 16:25 BST (UK)
Hi Heywood

I'm always confused by that area as well - so did a check. It's most likely they would be in a coal mining area, I'd think.   

One of my great uncles  went of to Atherton and then came back home with his children when his wife died so I'm thinking that finding out when he returned would give a good idea of her death date - but how  :-\

I've just checked the Rhosymedre burials  in case she was buried in the same graveyard as her parents but without a stone but there's nothing for that period.


Gadget
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Morganllan on Tuesday 17 August 10 00:41 BST (UK)
Hello  :)

Not sure whether you have thought of the death of Jane Jones age 37 in 1879 Mar Quarter at Chester? This district would have included Hope at this time (1871-1902)
Chester 8a 341

Best wishes
Morgan
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 August 10 07:42 BST (UK)
Hi Morgan

Good find but Spaniel has said on one of the other threads that he/she had visited Hope and checked the local records and burial ground(s) :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 August 10 08:26 BST (UK)
Hi again

Trying to approach the problem from various angles  ::)

If Edward didn't remarry (I've not checked), do you know when he died and where?  If so, checking up on where he was buried might be a way forward.

A few of my cousins and I and two records offices have been trying to trace the death of a 3 x great grandmother between 1841 and 1851 but so far and 6 years of searching has come up with zilch  :-\

Gadget
Title: Re: Jane Jones (nee Nicholas) b. 1842 Ruabon
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 17 August 10 08:44 BST (UK)
Just been doing some more checks.

The North Wales BMD has the following two deaths of a Jane Jones in Holt in the period - Local refs given

1878  - HOLT/10/15  (maybe aged 56 from GRO index  ::) )
1879 -  HOLT/10/39


No ages recorded.

Records at Wrexham

http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/deaths.html

However, if Spaniel has done local checks, these are unlikely  :-\


Gadget