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Title: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 12 August 10 14:17 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have a John Ross (26) coming out from the Isle of Skye along with his wife Flora (24) and a Catherine Ross (21) in 1853 on the "New Zealand" arriving in Victoria.

I'm trying to find out if there was any births to John and Flora Ross in Victoria and any death registrations for John and Fora, if so I'm hoping for mothers and fathers to be mentioned,  (big wish I think though).

I don't know anything about Catherine but she probably was John's sister.

Regards

Gerry
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: cando on Thursday 12 August 10 14:25 BST (UK)
ROSS Isabel
Father John Mother Flora NICHOLSON
At Geelong  1855  Reg#10838

ROSS Hugh
Father John  Mother Flora NICHOLSON
At Geelong  1857  Reg#10848

ROSS
Donald
Fathe: John  Mothe: Flora NICHOLSON
At Ascot  1865  Reg#14750
 
ROSS Samuel
Father John  Mother Flora NICHOLSON
At Ascot  1870 Reg#15190

ROSS Alexander Ronald
Father John  Mother Flora NICOLSON
At Creswick 1871  Reg#8418

Cheers
Cando

Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 12 August 10 14:37 BST (UK)
Flora's death:

ROSS Flora age 87yrs d. 1913 WATCHEM #7593
Father: Nicholson Jas
Mother: Margt MCDONALD


Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 12 August 10 14:54 BST (UK)
John's Death:

ROSS Jno age 78yrs d. 1902 St A Hos #7396
Father: Ross Jno
Mother: Margt MCDONALD
 

Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 12 August 10 14:58 BST (UK)
Buried together at Watchem Cemetery:

ROSS FLORA 88yrs 26/06/1913
Address: Carron         
Row:1   
Peg: 22   
Site: 34-35

ROSS JOHN 78yrs 26/04/1902   
Address: Carron         
Row:1   
Peg: 22   
Site: 34-35
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 12 August 10 15:41 BST (UK)


Thanks Cando and Merlin,

I shouldn't be deviating to the Ross family yet until I get my German ancestry sorted out first but the Ross is on my wifes side and today I got some information that a John Ross came out from the Isle of Skye in 1853 into Victoria and he was the brother of Alexander Ross who was one of many who had died on board the Ontario the following year on its way to NSW.  Alexander's wife Flora survived along with 3 children with John (15) dying in Quarantine in Sydney. 

With the valuable information you have provided I now know John's parents and Flora's parents so I'll be able to do some research back in Skye with the censuses and try and find the correct Ross family, Nicholson family and McDonald family, but there are many families with the same surnames so it will be hard.

Great job with the information you have provided, thanks

Regards

Gerry   
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: cando on Friday 13 August 10 00:39 BST (UK)
Hi Gerry :)   There are a few more ROSS burials in the small Watchem cemetery.  May be your family as well.  Often drive through Watchem :)

http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/buloke/wetchamdata.htm

Cemetery layout -
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/buloke/wetchamsite.htm

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Aussie1947 on Friday 13 August 10 04:13 BST (UK)

Cando,  Thanks for the extra information its great.

Gerry
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 19 August 10 06:41 BST (UK)
Cando and Merlin,

Is there any chance of another Victorian look up please.

I'm looking for a death for a Catherine or Katherine Mackenzie in Victoria maybe late 1800s or early 1900s.

I have Catherine Ross coming out from Skye on the "New Zealander" in 1853 with her brother John she would have been born around 1831.

I think I have a marriage to a John Mackenzie in Victoria in 1857 but I have no details of her death or children if any.

Catherine's parents were John Ross and Margaret McDonald from Kilmuir Inverness-shire.

 Regards

Gerry
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: cando on Thursday 19 August 10 06:59 BST (UK)
Birth
McKENZIE John
Father John  Mother Catherine ROSS
At Ascot  1860  Reg#8259

Can't see a death.

Cando

Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 19 August 10 12:22 BST (UK)

Thanks Cando,

I found basic information for a Catherine McKenzie burial at Bendigo in 1888 but I don't know if that is her or not. 

Regards

Gerry
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 19 August 10 12:30 BST (UK)
The Catherine McKenzie who died Bendigo 1888 is not your lady see below:

MCKENZIE Catherine age 64yrs d. 1888 SAILORS GULLY #1335
Father: Mcdonald Alexan
Mother: Christina FRASER
 
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: cando on Thursday 19 August 10 12:43 BST (UK)
Gerry have you considered that Catherine and husband may have gone interstate or returned 'home'....only one birth in Vic.  Just a thought.

Cando
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 19 August 10 13:07 BST (UK)



Merlin  and Cando,

Thanks for clearing up the Bendigo burial details I think one can pay the trust a small fee for more details and I was considering that but I don't have to go down that path now. 

Possibly that they may have moved to NSW, Catherine did have a brother John Ross in Victoria but also a sister in law in Maitland NSW who had lost her husband on the voyage out (ontario 1854).

I would have expected more children being born but maybe not.

I'll check the NSW bdm site.

Thanks again

Regards Gerry

PS: I really should't have got sidetracked onto the Ross side of the family yet but I'm intrigued.
 

Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: cando on Friday 20 August 10 04:42 BST (UK)
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I really should't have got sidetracked.......

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Tajrossi3 on Thursday 30 December 10 04:59 GMT (UK)
 ;D

They are my Great Grandparents! I have a full list of every one of their decendants!
? Flora pregnant on trip over on NZ'er? Child died at sea? Eventually settled out of Watchem and son Donald (my grandfather) ran the farm at Sammy's Lake/Massey near Watchem. All buried at Watchem cemetary.
More info if you need it. I am interested in John's parents. Think Floras father was the blacky at Duntulm
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 30 December 10 05:39 GMT (UK)
Tajrossi3,

Thanks for the reply.

My interest in the Ross family is with John's brother Alexander Ross who sailed on the Ontario in 1852 to NSW with his wife Flora and their 5 children, Mary, John, Ann, Donald & Margaret.  Sadly though Alexander died on the voyage and John died in quarantine in Sydney.  Flora and the remaining children settled near Maitland NSW.

I believe that John & Alexander Ross's parents were John Ross & Margaret McDonald

I have been trying to sort out the census records for Kilmuir Inverness-Shire and I think that I have Margaret (55) as head of the household at Balmaquen in 1841. 

Alexander & Flora Ross were my wifes GGGF & GGGM.

I haven't got much but I'll send you what I have.

Regards

Gerry
Title: Re: Victorian BDM lookup please
Post by: Tajrossi3 on Thursday 30 December 10 06:20 GMT (UK)
Fantastic - Balmaqueen is correct.
Alexander and his son died before reaching Sydney leaving Flora with 3 children (3 daughters and 4yo Donald). She went to the Hunter Valley River district with youngest Margeret, joined Donald who worked on McKays cattle station at Cooplacurripa..
Margaret married Neil, son of Archibald and Christina McQueen. Settled in lower Clarence where Margarets mum Flora joined them.

My John and Flora were in touch with their Clarence/Barrington relatives.

During WW1 grandsons of John Ross and Archibald McQueen looked up their relatives at Skye. Lindsay Ross took some photos.
There was a reunion of the Alex Ross family held at Gloucester (near Barrington) in July 1991

You probably know most of this stuff